Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

I suppose it can be argued that it doesnt matter as long as the number is presented in a consistent way. 1,610 new deaths did happen, after all.

I suspect they use the "date reported" number because the "date of death" number always lags behind by anything up to a week. 1,000 died last Tuesday doesn't have the same effect as 1,610 deaths reported today I guess.

Yeah exactly. I think it makes more sense at the start, adding a load from was it May (as supposedly happened the other day) seems less sound.

My Grandad is 86, and lives in Nottingham and hasn't even been contacted yet.

Has he or anyone on his behalf tried contacting anyone? I appreciate it’s a tricky situation as if everyone did it etc but my Nan hadn’t been contacted who is 94 and my Dad phoned to check she hadn’t had a call but misunderstood or the like and they made an appointment there and then.

My parents got an appointment in a similar way. My dad was on the phone to the surgery about something else and they were offered appointments during the call.

Clive Myrie‘s report on the BBC news at 10 didn’t pull any punches

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-55724994

Am staying with my dad as he recuperates after an operation. Local news was celebrating how well the vaccination process has been going round here, that there is a surgery in the Mendips which has dispensed more shots than any other in the UK. The news piece then turned to an old lady complaining she still hasn’t been offered a vaccine and not been contacted at all, despite being over 85, partially sighted and hard of hearing. My dad had been saying how well the roll out was going until they asked where the lady lived and she named the town he lives in too.

My mum in Southampton had her first vaccination at the end of last week. They're "not sure" when she'll be given the second jab which I find worrying.

mum and dad 80's had theirs in early jan in herefordshire

no side effects and doing well ..... no idea about the 2nd dose but they have been told to expect a delay from the originally planned 2 weeks

My father-in-law, in his eighties and clinically vulnerable, has had both doses. Norfolk based.

Had both doses of Pfizer (doc working in COVID admissions) and second dose absolutely nailed me, along with pretty much all my colleagues under 55ish who’ve had it. Fever and bad flu like symptoms the day after, over by the following morning but just had to hole up in bed. Seems to be younger people get a pretty strong immune response like Covid in a day(which is apparently a good thing as it means vaccine working) but as they start to vaccinate more younger people they’ll need to communicate clearly that this seems to be a normal part of the process rather than a bad reaction.

is the 2nd dose stronger / different ?

It's this "the flu jab gives you flu" which prevents uptake in people I know who work in child care.

It needs proper communication

No, but I would assume it's too do with your immune system already recognising the "bits" of virus in the vaccine and the illness is a nice big reaction to it.

assume it's too do with your immune system already recognising the "bits" of virus in the vaccine

I am not an expert but I thought that the Pfizer one had mRNA in it, not bits of actual CV19. I wonder why is causing the response.

Anyone with more knowledge care to speculate?

Ah:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

So the mRNA triggers the body to make a protein, which in turn triggers the immune response (which makes you feel ill), which in turn triggers the further production of antibodies.

Yeah, "bits" was a broad term, but whatever is in it is designed to produce an immune response right?

Yeah Gotcha.

It's all just bits at the end of the day, isn't it? (Speaking as a computer scientist here)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-55719888

Good thing our priorities are in order.

Given we started at cancel Cheltenham or allow a super spreader event, why does this surprise you?

Well our health secretary is a lobbyist for the racing industry, so it all makes sense.

Ilston vaccinations are go.

MIL (80) going velodrome at the weekend. Ma (78) not had the call. But they’re in the big city not earwash.

So, my Uncle called up for him yesterday, and he's going in for Pfizer today

That’s where my parents, both in their late seventies, are meant to be getting vaccinated. Typical that local residents needs are deprioritised to keep racing going, that’s always been the case.