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• #27
I had to quit strava as I was alway dissapointed unless I PB'd something at every run
All I keep an eye on now is distance and mood when finished. It makes me enjoy it much more, even though I kinda miss the data side of it
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• #28
Following this with interest. I've been fasting (I guess 16/8) for a few weeks now.
Surprisingly the need for breakfast just goes. I don't really wake up hungry. Once 12-1 rolls around I'm in need of it though!
The other thing that I struggle with is to then not pig out during the afternoon as that really makes it all pointless.
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• #29
Does the pigging out cancel it though? From what little I've read, I don't think it does
What time do you stop eating if you can hold out until midday? I think easiest for me is to finish dinner at 6 and not eat after that, which brings me to a 10am breakfast
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• #30
Depends how you define pigging out. If it’s eating in a carefree manner but within the calorie expenditure for the day, then that’s fine; if it’s eating above calorie expenditure to overcompensate for the fasted period, then that’s counter productive.
Try the Zero app, which provides information on these topics and may help motivate you. Although if you have deleted Strava then Zero might not be for you.
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• #32
Back on it now! Did a week before the xmas break but gave up as evening beer was too alluring during the holidays.
2nd week now and much easier this time around. Morning runs are still short but without any issues, feels pretty normal. I've realised the importance of a proper dinner though, tortelloni doesn't really cut it...
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• #33
So do you morning run and then hold out until lunch? I’ve been skipping lunch which I realise doesn’t give the digestive system the break it needs, 16/8 makes sense. How do you space the rest of your meals?
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• #34
I have dinner at 5-6 then late breakfast at 10ish. 2 cups of coffee before that though, at 7ish and 9ish. Run is at 8. Some mornings I struggle with focus but it seems to get better.
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• #35
Lunch at 12-1 as usual
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• #36
I’ve done this , after 2-3 days the Hangry passed for me , breakfast was easy to miss .
Weight fell off me , fasted rides ok if kept out of red zones .
I found 80km was ok fasted, ‘fat adapted’ perhaps.
I found I liked the hungry feeling when I was actually hungry , food tasted better , I made better food choices as I thought about it more .
Sweet things got too sweet a tiny bit would suffice .
I experimented with the hours , I did 48 once ( not recommended) when I wasn’t working .. felt ok .
15 kg loss ... I now rarely have breakfast , take a bigger lunch and an early smaller dinner .
It seems to make sense to me , worked and was easy .
A few kg have returned due to lockdown , but I’m just being more careful again with portion size and my cycling has reduced which is probably the cause .
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• #37
food tasted better , I made better food choices as I thought about it more
this. Because you only eat once a day maybe twice - you have to get it right.
The whole point of fasting is to fall into Ketosis. Its been a treatment for Epilepsy and type 2 Diabetes for years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis#:~:text=Ketosis%20is%20a%20metabolic%20state,in%20the%20form%20of%20ketones.Looks to have anti cancer cell properties but not enough data yet.
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• #38
I do this quite regularly.
Followed it for about 6 months last year and lost around 17 pounds.
I have been back on it again recently and also limit alcohol intake as well to 2/3 units a week tops.
When combined with periods of pescatarianism (sp?) I feel much lighter and healthier.
My main exercise is walking 5-6 miles a day and some resistance for upper body.
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• #39
I’m doing 16:8 and only eating carbs in 2 out of three meals. I’m not drinking until the pubs open or eating bread until I’ve got a stone off.
I’ve been doing fasted turbo rides 4-5 times a week.
So far I’ve lost 7lbs in just over two weeks which is pretty pleasing. I’ve got loads of energy but I’m actually sleeping really badly. There’s something about shedding weight that makes me need to piss loads, including at night. I’ll take it as a trade off.
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• #40
I've tried it in the past.
Newer studies aren't so favourable on fasting.
I dunno.
Article: https://www.insider.com/new-research-finds-intermittent-fasting-may-not-boost-weight-loss-2020-9
Study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2771095
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• #41
Comments on that second study aren't so favourable on the study.
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• #42
Reducing carbs makes your kidneys excrete more salt and, consequently more water, which is why you end up pissing more.
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• #43
Ahhh that makes sense thanks. I’ve introduced a few carbs in the evening to try and combat it.
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• #44
I’ve now lost 11lbs in three weeks on 16:8. I’ve been hungry at times but not had the low moods or lack of energy of other diets and I’ve managed to get through some tough sessions on the turbo.
I promised myself a new direct drive turbo when I got a stone off. I hadn’t anticipated getting one so quickly.
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• #45
I’ve had similar results on 16:8 over the last 3 weeks. I have loosely been counting calories but only to ensure I don’t massively over eat and have plenty of energy to exercise every day. I do 10am to 6ish pm and exercise at lunch time, this feels very sustainable to me.
I’m mainly doing it to try and improve my gut microbiome rather than weight loss but it certainly seems to be helping.
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• #46
Impressive results ^, only a week for me but combined with a dry January I’m already feeling a change. I think a major benefit is the awareness of what I’m consuming and taking that pause and if I’ve told myself I can’t eat after 6pm then I don’t have the consternation of holding a packet a crisps at 8pm wrestling my willpower. It’s been a bit tough nursing an espresso at the breakfast table while my family eat but my kid usually has a second breakfast anyway so I just jump on that.
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• #47
I would like to add that I have also quit drinking and definitely in a calorie deficit through exercise so can't attribute it all to fasting. It does allow me to feel full and focused during the day when I need it for work and when exercising though which is great.
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• #48
Two kilo drop for me this week, 88 to 86kg. I think mostly from a calorie deficit as with the meals spaced closer together I’m satiated much quicker. I haven’t changed what I consume so still feels I’m getting plenty of protein and so far I’m avoiding the mid-afternoon energy lull.
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• #49
^ Agree with the lack of energy lulls, feels like I've got a much more stable energy curve these days, less valleys and peaks. Don't weigh myself but feels like I might've dropped a kg or two. Definitely feel lees bloated.
Had a light lunch yesterday so tried to counter that with double helping of halloumi burger yesterday. Ended up eating a whole halloumi block myself. Bad idea.
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• #50
Anyone still doing 16/8?
My weight loss plateaud for a couple of weeks but in hindsight I was getting a little loose with the white bread and timings but now I’m back to a strict regime and my energy level is right back up. Started on the 16th Jan so coming up to six weeks and roughly 4.5kgs dropped (~84 Kg) which at least is back in the healthy zone for my height.
Anecdotally my legs have felt pretty shite running, really heavy but I’ve been on a steady decline for the last 18 months due to a stubborn Achilles injury so maybe I just need to adjust my expectations. Times seem inline with BF % which was a take away from reading ‘Race Weight’ years ago so I’ll continue to track progress and as long as my HR vs Speed is dropping I’ll be pleased.
Haha, exactly. Feels different but if you record performance on Strava I haven’t noticed any drop over benchmark segments.