US Politics

You go places outside of this thread for your Trump cuntery updates?

I'm enjoying the loons on twitter responding to each of Pompeo's self-promotional scheduled tweets with Q-based assessments of the time elapsed since the last tweet and its meaning. Apparently there's some sort of countdown to a big Trumpy reveal, mass arrests etc.

e.g. https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1351533621715243008

Man, reading Twitter comments makes the world seem genuinely insane. Glad I don't look at the site much. What the fuck are these people on about and what is it that they want from life exactly?

What the fuck are these people on about

If they had much of a clue about how anything more complex than a football game works, or any grasp of concepts like "intellectual rigour" or "scientific method", they probably wouldn't be cultists. Logical debate and inquiry is guaranteed not to be there.

and what is it that they want from life exactly?

Usually, some meaning or purpose they don't otherwise get from their life. Bluntly, most cultists who aren't seriously mentally ill are losers; the cult offers them a way to feel more like a winner.

As the Trump cults show, "loser" includes "so fragile that they feel persecuted even though they have a good job, salary, etc."

Sadly this isn’t always the case. My father knows an American couple, both were officers in the Marines, both degree level educated (one has a masters), well travelled (one is Swiss American with dual nationality). They aren’t qanon but are devoted trumpists and are convinced the election was rigged and there was a conspiracy. My dad dreads talking to them now because they are so normal in many respects but if conversation veers toward politics/election it’s just fucking unhinged. It’s an utter shame.

I do hope to see him put on trial and jailed.

I think he should be put on trial but not jailed. Lock up people that are a danger to society. Punish him in other ways like massive fines that bankrupt him (if not already...) and many hours of community service. Perhaps some sort of communications device ban.

I agree that prison is rarely the best option but the notion that Trump and his enablers have not been a danger to society is pushing it a bit.

Perhaps some sort of communications device ban.

A gag?

Fucker should get jail time, he's demonstrably a danger to society and rich people always avoid jail time and fines are of little punishment. I'm all for rehabilitation over just locking people up but there's no deterrent for a lot of white collar crimes when people get let off with fines and poor people who've done much less are thrown in jail and get stuck there.

Trump isn't a physical danger. I don't think it is likely he is going to hit anyone for example.

Napoleon was sent to Saint Helena. Perhaps Trump could be sent to Midway Atoll?

poor people who've done much less are thrown in jail and get stuck there

We shouldn't put most of those people in jail either.

But community service - as in proper picking up litter at the side of the highway etc would be so, so sweet.
Anyway - fuck off Donald. We're having a party to celebrate you going (just me and the 4 us citizens I live with obv). 7 layer dip, nachos and wings at the ready.

I 100% agree, but some kind of nominal jail time as a deterrent for people where fines mean nothing seems fine to me.

A gag?

I think in the UK we ban people convicted of some crimes like terrorism from owning mobile phones. Feels similar to me.

where fines mean nothing

We briefly had fines that were based on wealth. But the papers didn't like it and we went back to the current system where rich people can ignore them :(

Nice

Trump isn't a physical danger.

He’s just incited a terrorist incident where 5 people died, that would normally end in a prison sentence.

7 layer dip, nachos and wings at the ready.

Needs spinach / artichoke dip, sour cream dip, Fritos and ridged Ruffles to complete the experience

But incorrect I believe. The numbers cited are for pardons during term in office not just last day of Presidency.

Edit

Over 100 on last day though including his half brother.

But community service - as in proper picking up litter at the side of the highway etc would be so, so sweet.

In an orange jumpsuit to match his complexion.

2012

https://youtu.be/IOSow6-cmog

Not sure if he'll be able to get spray tan in prison, although the other guy did get organic food...

Love that video. The Deep Dish Rant too is amazing.

Trump isn't a physical danger. I don't think it is likely he is going to hit anyone for example.

Nope just grab random women and children by the genitals. Definitely a guy that shouldn’t be jailed because jail is for baddies... ffs

You probably hit "Post reply" at the same time I edited to add this:

As the Trump cults show, "loser" includes "so fragile that they feel persecuted even though they have a good job, salary, etc."

Possibly covers part of that.

To be fair a lot of people have limits to the sphere in which they're capable of a rational argument, particularly when the topic is outside their area of expertise. Even inside people's area of knowledge, they typically aren't knowledgeable of working with it at the scale required by politics. A lot of people can't manage reasoned debate about politics, partly for these reasons.

But "devoted Trumpist" still means delusional asshole, even if not Qanon.