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  • Really enjoying the article...(as someone who has grown up solidly middle class but would like to identify as working class). Reminds me of Kate Foxs Watching the English and her views on the middle class

  • Interesting how it says that in other European countries people don't do this. Instead they over-identify as middle class. Brits are weird.

  • What always strikes me is that in the UK (well England more than NI) what is called "middle class" is not 25-75% income percentile...it is more top 25% and sometimes top 10%.

    In NL/France that is the burgeousie and if you would try to pretend to be Dutch middle class in NL coming from that background the reaction would be a clear "Hah, lol, no".

    Big houses and all that and middle class? Pffffffffffffft.

    I had an acquaintance in uni, who tried to get in a golf club. No joy. When he said his dad was the owner of a well known factory, suddenly he got an invite. So clearly, there are class bubbles there too, of course.

    But he wasn't trying to pass himself as "I am so working class" if anything he pointed out how bull this was.

    Sample size of 1 obv. And yeah we do have cultural class, but this cap doffing pretend not rich when loaded to the hilt is pretty alien to the Dutch. And I think Norn Irish too from speaking to my colleagues.

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