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ok, thanks. I have some from H Lloyd read to go on if needed.
Still trying to confirm. It seems similar to the catalog for the 70's bikes, but looks more 80's to me with the recessed bolt and no rear brace. That said I have been informed this could be missing on some TT frames. Maybe it is a latter frame as I understood they built to order after that. I also can't place such a short number.