EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • They’re big enough to be able to absorb the ransom till HMRC refund it, but there’s specialist kit on the truck that impacts the ability to fulfil other jobs in the immediate future if it isn’t released swiftly, with knock-on effects including my day rate being on the line.

    But ‘are boarders’ tho still...

  • For the problem to be with HMRC presumably what happened was that the truck arrived at the UK border and HMRC said "where's your carnet showing that this gear went out from the UK and is now returning?", to which they got "we didn't need it when we left", and they responded "that'll be ~25% of what we estimate the value to be until you can come back with the original receipts"?

  • Bonfire of workers' rights begins.

    Didn't take long....

  • what a huge shock, never saw that coming...

  • La Passione...


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  • Germany haulier DB Schenker have temporarily stopped shipping to the UK as its customers are unable to generate the right paperwork to clear customs.

  • Hope it wasn't fish in that guy's truck...

  • Looks like all this Brexit chaos has freed up a lot of shipping capacity in the UK. Online orders
    arrive super quick.

  • World beating incompetence...before all checks are even done. There is still a grace period for some checks.

    Poor lorry drivers. Hard enough job as is.

  • The question is whether those stories are now the rule or the exception to the rule.

    It sounds as if just about everything has gone wrong there, but does it always?

  • Average cost of shipping a lorryload of goods to Britain from Germany
    rose 26% in 1st week of 2021, from France 39%.

    https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1349665469691781123

  • Some of it will be resolved later on, but not all checks are yet done and volume is still low.

    So it is a fair question, you'd need to gather data to compare lorry volume / costs / waiting times / problems like this and then you can estimate what the effects are.

    If goods volumes do not recover to old levels once the pandemic is over and people have £ again, then I would guess effects are longer term and GB routes are simply avoided by some vendors.

  • If goods volumes do not recover to old levels .

    It will not recover to old levels, because that will mean no border.

    Unless you mean early 70’s levels.

  • That's what I expect yes.

    Some will go via IRE (for us here)
    Some will be lost
    Some will be coming from abroad, already seeing oranges from... Peru? Now fair play to the farmers there, they also need an income.
    Some will go via Malta and other redirect options, so tax revenue is lost.

    In 2 years or so, the pandemic will no longer be an excuse, but you just know the Brexiters will say something that "It was all just teething problems".

    OK but "we don't starve / it's not the end of the world" wasn't something I seen on the side of a bus ;)

    "take back 70s goods volumes"
    "350 million per week for red tape"

  • Percy Pig is a sad loss.
    Do we all remember the rhetoric about food shortages, the need to stockpile and all the logistics professionals on Twitter claiming that it works be a calamity? At least it’s not that bad.

  • My recollection was that those warnings were raised when the prospect of No (Free Trade Agreement) Deal was a possibility.

  • the need to stockpile...

    TBF supermarkets had been doing that before the 1st of January in preparation of a No Deal.

  • It's not that bad is not how leave was sold.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/brexit-red-tape-if-nothing-changes-ireland-will-be-closed-1.4458597?mode=amp

    Title is a bit over the top but Brexit is causing problems in Ireland too.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55682597

    Hauliers from Ireland now bypass Wales. Some of it will recover, but not sure how bad this is for the area in Wales.

    Strangely enough no news yet on how service companies are affected.

  • Percy Pig is a sad loss.

    Do we all remember the rhetoric about food shortages, the need to stockpile and all the logistics professionals on Twitter claiming that it works be a calamity? At least it’s not that bad.

    Sorry Dov but I don't think you've been paying attention - the logistics situation is worse than for e.g. Shane Brennan (@Coldchainshane on Twitter) thought it would be, but it's masked at the moment (to an extent) by lorries simply not travelling as they're either unable to leave the depot or the shipping company has refused to go to the UK.

    Food shortages are now coming into play as stockpiles run down, which is going to push lorry volumes up, which is going to run headlong into the red tape mountain.

    And in the meantime fishing is buggered, and those that survive will either have to freeze their catch (and accept a lot less for it) or land it in the EU in order that they can sell it before it rots.

  • or land it in the EU in order that they can sell it before it rots.

    Scottish fishing boats are already doing that and selling it in auctions in Denmark.

    Up to 40% of fish sold at an auction in Denmark so far in 2021 have come from Scottish boats, according to a a leading figure in the Nordic logistics industry.
    British fishers are taking the drastic step of landing in the European Union to avoid the growing crisis in the UK.”

    Fishes are now better and happier going directly to the EU instead of the UK.

  • Shipping bmx Tyres to EU with Hermes was about £8 (plus vat) - now £21 (no vat)

  • I wonder if he's going to change his surname to "Rassel", too. :)

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jan/16/simon-rattle-applies-for-german-citizenship-brexit

    (Actually, changing names isn't nearly as easy in Germany as it is here.)

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