EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Riddle me this:

    I export a car temporarily to Poland, where work is done, the car is then returned/imported back into the UK.

    Due to the work done on the car it's going to be worth more when re-imported.

    To keep it easy, a 10k car leaves, then a 20k car comes back.

    Do I pay duty and VAT on the 10k that the car has gained on it's return?

  • No idea on tax, but interested to know what the car is?

  • Brits can’t tune cars anymore shocker.

  • Will have to rewatch Ford v Ferrari to cleanse the palate.

  • Lidl near me is totally out of salad and vegetables

    fruitlessly

    I see what you did there...

  • Are you exporting something if you're bringing it back?

    If you drive a car to another country and it stays there a while they don't know its value has increased when you drive it back. Unless of course, you ship it and declare values I guess.

  • Do I pay duty and VAT on the 10k that the car has gained on it's return?

    Doubt it - you paid local taxes on labour and materials when you had the work done on the car. And it hasn't been transformed in to another product and the import duty if any has already been paid when the car first entered the UK. That the market thinks the car is worth more when it comes back seems a bit here nor there.

    Right? Just a guess.

  • It's not my car, subject on another forum. The car has a blown engine, would be on the back of a transporter, then would come back in with a fresh engine.

    I was thinking that the customs agents might be interested in a car on a transporter as it might be being sold, and therefore (likely French) duty and VAT would be liable, but if you then explain that you're bringing it back in, post engine work, would UK customs be interested?

    Probably not.

    However - if you drove to Poland and then drove back with ten grand of engine in the back of your van you would deffo get the 6% duty and then 20% VAT on top.

  • if you drove to Poland and then drove back with ten grand of engine in the back of your van you would deffo get the 6% duty and then 20% VAT on top.

    "Nah mate, I brought that with me from the UK to see if it would fit in my Maluch and it didn't so I'm bringing it back again"

  • True, but the answer would be "show me the export certificate for it".

  • UK registration docs?

  • If it was in the back of a van on the way out would they have questioned it? I dunno. Most of my border crossings have been done on a bike.

  • In the old days, no - but these days your sandwiches get confiscated, so I imagine that "what's in the back of the van" will get asked.

  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fresh-seafood-exports-scotland-eu-halted-fishing-brexit

    The 18th! It system wasn't even "ready"/ready until 28 December.

    Deliveries of fresh Scottish seafood to the EU have been halted until 18 January, after post-Brexit problems with health checks, IT systems and customs documents caused a huge backlog.

  • The Fisheries Minister was too busy organising a nativity trail to read the Brexit deal;

    https://twitter.com/mrdandonoghue/status/1349415252925026306?s=12

  • Eat Trout to Help Out?

  • Surely you should de-value your car?
    20k on the way out, 10k on the way back, they owe YOU money!
    £££££££

  • “We ship orders to everywhere within the European Union and export outside the EU to only USA, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Swiss. We do NOT ship to Great Britan [sic] anymore because of the ridiculous amount of paperwork and the administration costs of taxes for small shipments to this country.”

    From BudgeTronics in the Netherlands. “Electronics for everyone!”† Now I need to find somewhere else that stocks HK628 chips and will ship to Plague Island.

    † post-Brexit UK residents excluded; we did this to ourselves

  • ^ #thanksbrexit - electronics for everyone, but not us. Really going brilliantly this Brexit lark...


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  • I might be up for trans-shipping if it's not too onerous...

  • I’ve just managed to order some car parts from a German website, who had been unable to ship to these sunny uplands since mid December. I now need to wait and see if it arrives and if I get stung for import!

  • ooh, thank you. I might use them :-)

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55655631

    Stena Line moves a route from Belfast to Rosslare cos Brexit.

    More dividends!

  • Stena Line moves a route from Belfast to Rosslare cos Brexit.

    Not quite--they've moved a newly-commissioned ferry to a different route, where they think its capacity will be needed more.

    The Belfast-Liverpool route will undoubtedly continue to be served.

  • The Belfast-Liverpool route will undoubtedly continue to be served.

    On a 'bring your own oars' basis.

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