Mash / Cinelli Vigorelli

Quite tasty.

Nice CdF

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i love how it's impossible to tell mash apart from any other dorky mamil brand now, really grown with their market

One might say its when Antonio fell out of love with them.

lol

@PhilDAS Lol!

@maj Hmm, not really sure what you mean there? In terms of aesthetics or the bikes they offer?

I guess I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for Mash; I’ve owned 2 different Mash track frames over the years and always thought they were fun if nothing else.

EDIT: Actually, I regret selling my Bolt so that was definitely more than just fun. Think I clocked near 7,000 miles on that thing.

If it's any consolation I'm eternally glad you sold it :) I've logged 4600+ miles on it, so I'd add another easy 2000 miles unlogged.
Edit: It's definitely my favourite child (shhhhh the others will hear).

I’m glad it’s gone to a good home ;)

Well this sizing thread has been a bummer. I ordered myself an AC-2 in eye searing orange but I had somehow convinced myself that I was a 54 not a 56.

Is anyone here 6ft tall and currently riding around on a 54 thinking "Man, my back is feeling just awesome today?" or am I going to have to cancel?

I’m no InternetBikeFit Expert, but I think that frame is going to be too small for you.

I'm 6ft1 (on a good day, after a stretch) and mostly ride 56s, my 58 Vigorelli is an outlier. On a conventionally proportioned frame a 54 wouldn't cross my mind. My back always feels shit but that's just scoliosis.

I'll say in contrast to everyone else saying to size down, I'm 6'1" and rode a L, which at the time meant a "58cm" according to them. In reality it was only 58cm ctt, and it was something closer to a 54 ctc. I sized up two sizes when I replaced it with the new run, and it fits much, much better. That said, I'm a lanky dude and am pretty comfortable with a lot of reach. Personally though, unless you ride with a lot of saddle-to-bar and need that shorter reach, I'd go for the larger of the two sizes.

@hollow__legs hah, I bought that wheelset thinking I'd be one of very few people in the whole country with that setup, and a month or two later went on a ride with a local crew and found out I wasn't even the first person in my small city with it lol

to me mash is the closest thing to a skate brand cycling has, it genuinely has some good history/ cultural significance to it, and at one point, was somewhat countercultural in its aesthetic.

i just find it funny, like most skate brands, as they've grown they've not grown through being relevant to the culture that is now, they've grown by being a nostalgic reference to their userbase who now has a larger pool of disposable income, their pockets getting deeper etc, their style of riding changing.

the brand has the energy of the old guy at the premier, bops around, is chill, and everyone is whispering telling you what a big deal they once were. but alas all you can see is a 40 year old dude, wearing a brown baker tee and a long grey hoodie, crusty ass DCs taking half a filming day kickflipping a 5, meanwhile you have 30 up and comers dm'ing you on insta landing a tre down a 20 set to the sound of pop smoke

this is without touching on how they seem to have been absorbed into "bike marketing" at large and no longer hold a cool outsider perspective, again, like an aging skate-brand. them releasing/prototyping a gravel bike which looks straight out of 2015, dripped in SRAM product placement and chas looking like he's any random insta discover sponsored rider is strangely fitting for where they're at

Interesting. I must be showing my age because I have no idea what most of your references are about.

I know what you are going at for sure.
But don't forget they are still making track/fixed gear frames. If they want to expand much like skate brands with vintage shapes to capture that market then so be it. They kinda follow the same route no?
Like with skateboarding most brands they die off leaving the main ones and then new ones pop up to keep things fresh. Can't really do anything wrong as such if you want to keep people cycling/skateboarding.
Apart from making shit product/unethical product that is.
Cool is what you make it........I currently ride a Mash Bolt 2.0 so bought into the cool aspect for sure just to be clear.
I personally don't see myself bike-packing and that but when a brand's founders/riders/designers grow older the equipment/outlook change.
Personally I'd prefer if Mash was all about street riding and what not cause that was what I got hooked on.
But they changed a little bit, I didn't and thats all good in my perspective.
Keep things inclusive....that is my main thing...skating or cycling.

I also don't understand the skate references, but I agree. I think they really lost their way after they broke up with Cinelli.

On that note, perhaps the thread title needs changing.

mash / dad bikes / 2008 nostalgia / #occupykingkog

When's the next MASH film coming out?

Edit: these basically were skate videos: https://www.mashsf.com/news/mash/full-mash-video-19-chapters

Edit edit: now I really miss riding fixed gears with my friends, awh.

i just find it funny, like most skate brands, as they've grown they've not grown through being relevant to the culture that is now, they've grown by being a nostalgic reference to their userbase who now has a larger pool of disposable income, their pockets getting deeper etc, their style of riding changing.

Good take on "mash in context of lfgss", less so of "mash in context of cycling & fixed gear". Internet is still brimming full of 20something fixie mash folk, just not...here.

Yeah this ^. Came across 'Official Birmingham Fixed Gear' on Instagram the other day which was refreshingly nostaligic.

these folk are the teens at the skatepark who think modern skating in full of [slur] and why can't it be like ..... wearing a reissue baker tee

Video on the Mash Instagram of what I presume is the new MTB frame.

Riding uphill, which is cool, but riding uphill with the dropper post down, which is not cool.

I'd feel differently if Mash weren't still giving bikes to the track bike wheelie kids that are keeping track bikes and street riding alive in the next generation, and making bikes for those kids.

I'm not sure if this is the case over the pond but in the US, even in small cities like the one I live in, the kids are on that 12 o clock boys kick and a bunch of them are doing it on track bikes. They're definitely a separate scene from people like me (30 yrs old, got into track bikes through racing alleycats, etc).

Mash seems to be in touch with that scene and promoting it, so imho they're not out of the zeitgeist just yet. But maybe things look different over where y'all are at?