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  • Appreciate the help, I'm particularly ignorant at this aspect of guitar.

    5os style gibson wiring minus one of the volume knobs, just a master vol.

    As I understand it the physical difference to 'modern' wiring is where the capacitor is and the tonal characteristics of less tone loss at low volumes (albeit low volumes at low tone) are desirable to me.
    The diagram was quickly pulled off the net under a '3way wiring 1vol 2 tone' google search and a few glasses of whiskey over an evenings stumbling round the net.

    Think Ive edited this one more to what I want? (Ive missed off the other switch wire too ?EDIT: and the jack but its not those I'm struggling with)

  • Seymour Duncan has excellent writing diagrams for almost every setup

  • yeah they have this, can I do the 50s thing with the caps tho?
    https://www.seymourduncan.com/resources/pickup/wiring-diagrams

  • I want to buy a bass guitar...

    There I have said it...

  • How about a Goth Guild JS2?

    That's got you written ALL OVER it...


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  • Got it. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way of doing 50s style with only one volume, unless you change to one tone too. If you have 3 pots you could convert one of the tones to a bass roll-off. It came stock on my G&L and I rewired my humbucker SG to do the same. Did take me a couple of different capacitor values and I think I've currently got a 0.001µF in there.

    A description on page one here:
    https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/21112-three-must-try-guitar-wiring-mods
    and the diagram would look like this for one volume:

    Edit: forgot to change the treble capacitor orientation.

    Edit edit: totally missed the diagram '1b' on that PG article, which is the better way to wire a three knob guitar. It's more effective if the volume comes after the treble and bass. It's not 50s style, but has the same effect of cleaning up an overdriven signal while maintaining highs.

  • Always a good idea!

  • See, wouldn't have known where to start with that!

    Can not express how much youve helped!

  • No bother. I started out with a simple pickup replacement, then learned about coil splitting, then adding out-of-phase switching quickly turned into full Jimmy Page mods. Then I wanted the bass cut that G&L and Reverend guitars have. I must have spent more time wiring that particular guitar than playing it.

  • What kind of bass do you fancy?

    4,5,6 strings?

    Solid body, hollowbody?

    Short scale, regular scale, long scale?

    Singlecoils, humbuckers?

    Budget?

  • I'm about to buy some tuners for my Mockingbird. It's a right handed guitar, with a reverse headstock (so the tuners go along the bottom of the headstock) and six in line tuner setup.

    I think, but I'm not sure, that I want to buy left handed tuners. I know either will fit and that they'll both work, but I think that the worm gear may be on the wrong side of the string tension if you get the wrong one. Whether that matters or not, not really sure..

    Does anyone know for sure?

  • what is the material difference between squier / fender instruments these days? is literally just a sticker?

  • Pickups/electrics and a bit of finishing. You tend to get more rosewood and less laurel / pau ferro on Fenders. Squier is (mostly) so good these days.

  • Probably (maybe?) some of the hardware - tuners and pickups.

    It always used to be where they're made didn't it. I can't imagine they have multiple factories spitting out CNC bodies and necks to different standards around the world, so nowadays it's probably just where they're finally assembled.

  • Well Squier is generally Far East. China for the Bullet/Affinity stuff, Indonesia for Classic Vibe etc.

    The Mexico plant does things very similarly to the American factory I believe. So they do some initial CNC on the neck and then hand shape them. Not sure what they do in the Asian factories.

  • I don't, but everytime someone mentions one I get a big pang of want for a AEADGB natural finish bird! Had a platinum series mockingbird bass 20 years ago, double split P sounded awesome.


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  • That's a very cool bass indeed. I've always had a little bit of a want for a Seagull or Eagle bass from their classic style series...

  • Also; NAD!

    Picked up a JC-77 from a disgruntled Metallica fan (thus explaining the pointy bois in this photo below from the seller) for a lot less than a new JC-40 would have cost me (c.1/2).
    The reverb doesn't work but apparently it may just be a bad solder in the tank and it needs a new Roland badge but it's bloody great otherwise!

    Also considering putting a Gram Parson/ Nudie Cohn inspired sticker on my Jazzmaster (along with a white pick guard)... Hardly a topic worthy of major discussion but I haven't put a sticker on a guitar for at least fifteen years and it feels like a big decision, haha.

    Will it look absolutely stupid or incredible?

    I've been influenced in no small part by this incredible Navigator Les Paul that's been in my watchlist on Reverb forever (it's priced too high for the condition at €2,391.69, damaged headstock, mismatched knobs and the seller hasn't even given it a good polish but if I have the cash to spare sometime and it's still available I'll definitely make a reasonable lower offer in the hopes of securing it)


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  • To answer my own question... a right handed, reverse headstock does need left handed tuners.

    Amusingly, left handed tuners are interchangeably described as 'left handed' or 'xR' (where 'x' is the number on that side, but the 'R' means that as you're looking at the guitar face on, neck pointing up, then the tuners will go on the right hand side of the headstock - which is actually a better way to describe them).

    Also, Mockingbird basses are bad-ass. I should put a bass on my todo list. I might need to move house first though - I don't think it'll fit on my current workbench.

  • So right handed guitars use left tuners? Does make sense actually...

  • Yeah, believe so - a right handed tele for example would use 6L tuners (6 x Left sided).

    It does make sense; maybe 'bass' and 'treble' side would have been better to avoid too many left / rights :)

  • I always assumed 6L meant 6-in-a-line, as opposed to 3-a-side. But your nomenclature makes more sense!

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