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• #19677
My 80 year old mum and 79 year old dad have just had their second Pfizer jab.
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• #19678
I think there is a lot more that could be closed. For example, The Council have confirmed that the fireworks shop can continue to sell based on click and collect, despite lines of customers appearing outside on 5th November, 24th and 30th and 31st December. Essential fireworks, innit? I think there are a lot of non- essential retail “click & collect” which simply generate outdoor movement that could be closed by law.
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• #19679
I think there are a lot of non- essential retail “click & collect” which simply generate outdoor movement
Yep, this. Some examples. Our library is open for click and collect. That’s a couple of unrelated staff working in the same indoor space, interacting with the public and handling items which have been handled by potentially infected public. Then handling new items which they pass over to new members of the public. Argos next door to that open for orders at the door and click and collect. Again, unrelated members of staff working in the same indoor space and interacting with the public, who weren’t in the last lockdown. I didn’t go any further into town but I expect lots of shops are doing this. Same goes for scores of local food places which are now open. And judging by the queues of people using them outside, people simply can’t do without their Dominoes or KFC.
All this is generating movement and interaction between strangers which wasn’t there during lockdown 1.
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• #19680
Adherence seems like it’s pretty high, with more people in favour of tightening restrictions. So I’d guess it won’t be very long.
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• #19681
20 deep queue outside Starbucks in Greenwich, everyone decided exercise = day out in the park.
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• #19682
Literally everyone who can't work from home is required to go to work still. Maybe we could do the "key workers only" thing that a surprisingly high number of people think is already happening?
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• #19683
I'm avoiding Greenwich entirely at the moment.
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• #19684
Yep, this. Some examples. Our library is open for click and collect. That’s a couple of unrelated staff working in the same indoor space, interacting with the public and handling items which have been handled by potentially infected public. Then handling new items which they pass over to new members of the public.
My sister-in-law works at a library and they have pretty comprehensive and robust policies for dealing with both the public and books during the pandemic, including quarantine times for items returned. There's a good chance yours does as well.
But more importantly - libraries are an essential service. Closing them down would likely impact the least well off or in need at a time when there is very little else available to people. I do hope the staff are provided everything they need to stay safe.
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• #19685
Surely elite sport can’t continue running for much longer?
This isn’t meant to sound flippant at all (and fully appreciate it’s all ‘bread and circuses’ really) but having live sport on doesn’t half distract from the general monotony of the news updates during the week, which is why I’m sure they’re trying to keep it active.
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• #19686
Yeah I was thinking this. It’s a difficult balance isn’t it. Obviously footy players seem incapable of bubbling properly but my god it’s a distraction for most of us. I don’t even care about kickball but I’d rather people who do have somewhere to put their anxieties.
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• #19687
everyone decided exercise = day out in the park.
When your kids have been inside for a week, a trip to a park is pretty much essential for their mental health.
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• #19688
And yours!
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• #19689
It's quite a difference to the first lockdown. This was Plumstead Road yesterday, during the first
lockdown you could cross that road freely at any time.
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• #19690
On the one hand, I've noticed more people (as a family unit) out and about walking. College road and the green chain walk. Just walking and chatting.
Which is good.On the other, there are groups that clearly aren't one household walking around spending a lot of time together.
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• #19691
But they don't need to go with their cousins, aunts, uncles and grandparents which is what one group I passed an hour ago looked like.
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• #19692
The fault for that lays squarely at the feet of Johnson, Cummings and the entire Conservative party for their defence of the indefensible.
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• #19693
it is kind of mad right? Literally summer level crowds.
I am going up blackheath then croombs to Q1.
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• #19694
Drive to a park is a great British tradition
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• #19695
The dog falls asleep after five minutes when I try to emulate this.
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• #19696
You make him run too much
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• #19697
My essential shop in aldi saw 5 20 years oldish adults with no masks ! Would of kicked off but my girlfriend was with me .
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• #19698
@pacef8 - Maybe they had underlying health issues? How are you to know?
The amount of finger pointing and whiff of my ‘shit doesn’t stink’ on this thread is really quite disappointing. When @andyp has quite rightly pointed out, the compliancy for this lockdown is squarely at the feet of Johnson and his cabinet.
I think the vast majority of people are compliant, and are simply trying to survive in these pretty dire times. Finger pointing, calling people out or making judgements against people when the fabric of society is already stretched very thin is not the answer. Much like a lockdown is not the answer to dealing with this pandemic.
tl;dr - will probably mute thread.
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• #19699
No i think some of them where just being cnts a mask for ten mins would not kill them.
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• #19700
5 20 years oldish adults with no masks
from the underlying health issues support group sticking together for solidarity in Aldi.
Non essential online and click and collect retail.