US Politics

My personal point of view, about the difference in police and government responses to this "riot/coup" and the BLM protests, is that black people in the united states have actually had their votes stolen, been deprived of the right to vote, had the places they've lived removed from the electoral rolls, been disenfranchised, and had to work so fucking hard to get back something that never should have been taken in the first place, so they can engage in a political process which has for the most part fucked them over.

And these whiny fucks are upset about something that didn't happen.
Their votes were counted.
Their man lost a fair election.
There is no "steal" of it.
And they get waved into the Capitol building, the police pose for selfies with them, and their whiteness protects them from the violence that was brought on the BLM protestors for protesting peacefully, much farther away from the capitol buildings they've just rolled through.

Just the thought of the injustice of it makes me rage.

It's just fucked up, and what makes it worse, is that the next time their is a BLM protest all of this shit will be forgotten and you'll get the same media tropes about black/ethnic protesters being all rioters/looters etc. Distorting protests which are looking to change the historical inequality in that country, whilst this riot/coup is about nothing more than hurt feelings because the person you support can't come to terms with the fact that he lost.

That beard / shaved neck combo is just horrible

Strong counterpoint the neckbeards overtaking the capitol building.

Are we just annoyed at the unjustness between the different responses?

Yes.

Or does part of us want to see violence and brutality inflicted on people we don't agree with.

No. I'd prefer they didn't shoot/choke to death/tear gas/rubber bullet either group, but policed all protests with the same level of response appropriate to the level of disorder.

Stolen from twitter:

Andrew Neil is challenging randoms on twitter to PROVE IT when they point out he acted as a cheerleader for Trump.

Incredible

Or does part of us want to see violence and brutality inflicted on people we don't agree with.

this isn't a difference of opinion, it's a difference of morality. an important distinction, and yes, i think these fuckers should be made to suffer. failure to do so will just send a message that this sort of seditious, undemocratic, white is right shit is a-ok.

whereas 25th could be done straight away

25th is not an instantly done process and we could expect to see a lot more of yesterday's activity, only more violent, as it played out.

Just the thought of the injustice of it makes me rage.

It was fucking grotesque watching the perfect play of white privilege.

Or does part of us want to see violence and brutality inflicted on people we don't agree with.

Close, but more that I want to see nazis beaten back from the steps of democracy by police acting legally in a democratic framework.

Just to clarify, in no way do I want to trivialise the unjustness of the response (law and media) to the BLM protests.

They're only analogous in terms of how you should aim to deal with large crowds in a way that limits harm to people.

I'm not sure a chin like that could ever be called 'strong'

+1000 to what @cornelius_blackfoot posted up there.

I have a nightmare that one of these days Trump is going to post just the letter 'Q' on twitter, and the conspiracy nutters get serious.

They're only analogous in terms of how you should aim to deal with large crowds in a way that limits harm to people.

"Limits harm to people", there is the immediate harm of bashing someone over the head and there is a more external harm of allowing a far right mob to access and browse a key government institution unaccosted.

I think people are "framing" Ashli Babbit as a Qanon nutter due to her habits of
wearing Q t-shirts and tweeting at Kamala Harris that Joe Biden was a baby rapist.

^^ quite; viscerally satisfying though it may be to see the salty mace-induced tears of Elizabeth from Knoxville (and I'm aware that's an ignoble impulse we shouldn't be basing policing policy on), softly-softly crowd control is in itself a good thing. But what then needs to happen is US Marshals busting down the doors of Q Shaman and Lectern Looter and hauling them off to court.

^^^ Unauthorised browsing!

But what then needs to happen is US Marshals busting down the doors of Q Shaman and Lectern Looter and hauling them off to court.

this is the next test. the feds know who these people are, how soon they get arrested and charged (if at all) remains to be seen. if they get a pass, i think it's time for "the left" to start breaking things.

no fucking pasaran.

Dickheads with money get more airtime

That's already the case. By yourself a newspaper like the Daily Mail and you can have far more influence than is reasonable.

Meanwhile some stuff is paid for and available to all. I pay a National Trust membership which helps pay for the maintenance of some fantastic parts of the country but there isn't anyone checking your ticket for the vast majority of it.

I fully concur with this.

Big lolz to this one though. Should go straight to the memes thread >>

eagerly anticipating Ben Garrison's comic on what happened yesterday

Summed it up nicely.

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That hits the nail on the head basically. Where's it from?