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• #27
Were you riding it SS before? If so, do you like the way it rides? If not convert it back to SS and ride it first. If you do like it, then proceed.
I was riding it single speed, and F&%king hated it.. cus I knew it wasnt doing it justice! haha
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• #28
Sounds like an excuse.
Sell it.
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• #29
How dare you, You're a monster.
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• #30
Sorry, but it's going to be the same only heavier.
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• #31
Everything starts with watching “RJ the bike guy” on YouTube of course, but ended up just getting whatever was off the shelf in laylands. Soaked the BB in the one on the left and then painted the one on the right a couple times. Painting it on makes a noticeable difference everytime but it was time consuming!
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• #32
The bb is pretty low. I guess that's fine if the tyre width makes up for it
Yeah, and also pedal strike fear can be allayed by Hardening The Fnck Up /forum meme stuff do not be offended
I disagree with the ‘just ride it’ brigade, I’d get all the things I want done on it, paint it, get repro decals, treat it like a treasure. Put discs on it! Get some bmx bars! Get a Nuvinci! Go mad, lockdown is here again.
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• #33
This is the kind of motivation I came here for... although definitely at that point of regret not paying someone to paint this... but you’re right, lockdown, time is the 1 thing I have right now!
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• #34
So, are you going for a full painting, or just "fix" the bad parts?
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• #35
I’m going to try the “bad parts” approach first, wish me luck haha
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• #36
Why having the work twice?
Go for a full respay, do it as DIY thing...
Check spray bike cans, never used, but seen lots of amazing works using that spray.
maybe see if you can find some new decals on ebay.If you are going to "modernize" the bike, i will go for full respray instead of just some bad parts.
But.. go for it, either way that bike is quite nice. is a shame that we can find frames like that in Portugal, or, the ones we can find are made of gold (expensive as shiiiiiit).
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• #37
Do you scrub the rustins off between applications? It is pretty tedious and i often wonder if i wouldn't do better with a dremel and a wire.
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• #38
Can Winston cut a crown race from jis to iso? I did ask when I was getting some work done and he said no but maybe I didn't explain it properly.
Nice project, I started sanding down an old frame to paint, never tried it before. Lots of people online saying don't bother, good luck with it!
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• #39
yea just scrub with a wire brush but to be honest I got bored of it and went and got some heavy grit sand paper... which just made me realise a) how deep the rust goes and B) how surface rust does nothing to compromise integrity of the frame... so I feel like I'm chasing a rabbit hole. just started priming cus if I took off anymore paint I'll have to walk it round to armourtex for powdercoating!
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• #40
Can Winston cut a crown race from jis to iso?
There's a reamer for that, must be really unusual to need it now - the kind of thing that a lot of workshops will have got rid of or never had. Try a very old-school workshop, or just any good LBS to see if they happen to have it. For instance, where I live, just some of the bikeshops I have within easy reach: Comptons, Parts & Labour, Lee Green Cycles, Rat Race, Seabass, Brixton Cycles, Edwardes ... yada yada. The old school ones are the ones to try first.
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• #41
FWIW I've never seen a good rattlecan paintjob.
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• #42
Check this out:
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• #43
Thanks, I did a bit of research and i think the park tools iso crown race cutter is designed to be able to resize it, but it takes quite a bit of time. There's AW cycles nearby and their workshop looks decent, they might be able to do it. Problem is I've got the same issue on a few bikes it's gonna add up £££
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• #44
Have tried spray.bike in the past and it was the worst finish I've ever had on a DIY paintjob - comes out the can thick and looks like it was rolled on.
Halfords own brand paint is inexpensive, durable and sticks to anything.
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• #45
Skülly
FWIW I've never seen a good rattlecan paintjob.
Not when you're apartment living at least!
Thanks for the info on the headset, I think I'll keep the forks/stem vintage to help strike the balance with old and new... and I have to go back to work tomorrow so will lose all the time I'm currrenly wasting trawling websites and youtube videos haha
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• #46
Interesting, I patched up some forks with some halford graphite grey I had left over from my 205 it's early days but it's holding up well on some acid etch primer. Not pretty though.
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• #47
Ciclos uno in Hainault always has weird old tools. Might be worth calling them up if all else falls through.
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• #48
I think the problem is usually people not treating like a proper spray job and ease of access. A rattle can is just a single container with the paint, thinners, and air pressure all in one. All the techniques required for a good spray gun job are still required for a rattle can job. There's also an element of pre-selection. People with the motivation to invest in a full spray gun set up are less likely to knock out half arsed attempts.
The other big hurdle is inherent difficulty spraying a bike frame which is made up of lots of overlapping tubes. It's not like say, a car wing, where you've got one nice big block to go back and forward across.
Pretty sure either Spotter or a Dutch guy on here did a good job with a purple bike.
The thing is you'll probably spend ~£100 to do a good DIY job (assuming you're buying everything from scratch).
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• #49
If you want something really tough almost powdercoat-like this Simoniz Tough Black is good apparently:
https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/simoniz-tough-black-gloss-spray-paint-500ml-549772291
However, it has a very long curing time. So you need somewhere safe and dust free to leave the part, and then wait. Pretty sure I've also seen someone polish it up and clear coat over it to create a "normal" paint job.
Probably not the choice for lugged frames though.
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• #50
For anyone interested in the "end" result. Few adjustments to come but pretty happy with the result so far. Steering feels abit stiff, not sure what that is... might be the headset as the only think I opted not to replace. But very light, speedy, and most of all comfortable!
I've probably spent £500 ... £600 if I count the wrong parts or money that didnt need to be spent! The "good" condition ultegra shifters are a great example of buying off ebay. Brand new alex rims vs GP5000 was the hardest task, and ended up getting the LBS to help me solve that riddle!
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What rust treatment do you use? looks like it worked well!