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• #19327
Th0ughts on position? Lap 2, fatigue setting in.
I feel like I could be more stretched out, and obv maybe lower.
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• #19328
Put your saddle back you slvlss weirdo. Your wrists don't look very comfy.
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• #19329
They were surprisingly fine.
Probably a good point on the saddle. Bike was set up for comfort.
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• #19330
weather was dead nice on sunday in the fucking lake district, so i'm asking why you're wearing leg warmers for a 25 in what i assume is the south of england PLEASE ADVISE
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• #19331
Seat back is not a bad place to start, then work on finding a position for your arms that allows your head to come down - for me that is quite narrow arms with forearms up around 30-40degrees, which then allows me to shrug my shoulders and my head then naturally drops down whilst still being able to see forwards. I do have rather long neck though...
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• #19332
It was cold!
I was also wearing a full thermal under the skinsuit.
And merino socks.Will have a play with position on the turbo before the next one (should have plenty of time).
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• #19333
be bold; start cold
that's what they say. you'll go faster. comfort engenders sloth.
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• #19334
Arse back, hands up, head down - whilst still looking forwards, obviously. It looks as though there's plenty of scope for getting your head between your shoulders more though.
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• #19335
agree, saddle up and back
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• #19337
I was about to be really unimpressed with tailing yours mates in a car with a massive tailwind, but his last 100m TT was almost 30mph so fair play.
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• #19338
Here's a reminder of Christmas past.
If you could manage to ride a decent 25 on Christmas day you stood a fair chance of getting on the front cover of Cycling.
There were 72 entrants, but only 30 starters on a day of constant heavy rain. The event was held on what was then a new version of the Amersham Road course, starting a little north of the town to avoid new traffic lights in Amersham (they've gone now). This must have been the same course that was used when I rode this event in the late seventies, without distinguishing myself.
The main challenge for those wanting to ride was really having the necessary diplomatic skills to absent oneself from home on Christmas morning without destroying domestic relationships. My own marriage did survive, but I'm not sure how I managed it.
The same issue of Cycling reports one other Christmas day 25 (Tyneside Vagabonds) and three
10's, plus a number of other TT's and Cyclo Cross events in the same week. What wonderful enthusiasm!For the record, Jackson's actual time was 1.2.40, Dick Goodman was second with 1.3.15, and Paul Bennett third with 1.5.47. Cycling reports that Bennett, who was later 25 Champion ( 1965, I think), rode 'one of the revolutionary small wheeled bicycles.' Presumably a Moulton - they never were much cop for time trials, however much Alex Moulton pushed them.
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• #19339
Awesome, any details of this route? May do this today, once as a warm up then once race paced fixed. Lucy will be keen as well.
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• #19340
Sorry, I've only just seen this, so I'm afraid you've missed the chance of doing it today.
Here is the course, as well as I can remember it. It was called HCC113, and somewhere there must be a formal description, but my memory will probably be good enough for your purposes - an accurate mileometer might be helpful, but don't forget you can't really compare the speed you do riding round a course with a performance with a number on your back in an actual race - that would always be faster.
From Amersham Old Town go north west along the high street to the junction with the A413 and carry on towards Aylesbury. There is an embankment on your right, and after less than a mile you will see a turning to the right - an unclassified road going towards Chesham - there is a footpath more or less opposite going to Mop End. This is the start and finish area - I can't give you the exact positions, but if you base your course on the turning you won't be far out.
Now all is simple. Go towards Aylesbury on the A413, just continue on the main road at Wendover turning right near the start of the town and then left as signposted. On the outskirts of Aylesbury you come to what is best described as a triangular circulatory system (visible on a map). Go round this and retrace the route to the finish.
I'm not sure I'd really recommend riding this course now - the A413 is very busy considering its width, but it's certainly possible to do it.
Riding old TT courses does have a certain appeal. A few years ago I rode over the old Bath Road 100 course (Aldermaston, Pangbourne, Watlington, Nuneham Courtney, retrace to the Bath Road , then out to Savernake Forest, turn and retrace to the 48th milestone (near the Aldermaston turning). Unfortunately most of the roads are now too hellish with traffic for enjoyable riding.
I think the Bath Road Hilly 50 would be an exception - I don't know this one accurately, but I know a man who does, so this could be a project for 2021.
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• #19341
On this day in 2008
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• #19342
Thank you! It's a very fast one but probably too dangerous these days. Had a nice ride from amersham to Christmas Common instead, but thanks for the knowledge!
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• #19343
I can't see a number, but I assume you had one. Is this the Amersham Road, what did you do?
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• #19344
Is this the Amersham Road, what did you do?
No, Maidenhead Thicket (H10/2). For some reason I don't seem to have recorded what I did and the club website doesn't go back that far. I imagine it was 29 something.
Edit: Tracklog says I got off the gas at 30:05, so I'm going with that.
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• #19345
They still run events on that road, they just start in Missenden rather than Amersham. Hillingdon Triathletes run an evening 10 on the Amersham road course in the Summer. H10/4 is the course code
https://www.strava.com/segments/1850857?hl=en-GBThere's the H25/4 version as well, but there aren't many of those run, I don't think? https://ridewithgps.com/routes/198079?lang=en
?lang=enDriving on the Wendover bypass is horrific (the width means some idiots feel the need overtake each other REALLY badly), but I didn't find it too bad to ride, strangely?
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• #19346
Anyone got knowledge of other split nose saddles like ism pn1.0 / dash stage ?
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• #19347
I must've done some of those courses. There's that one and there was another one on the A413 that used to start and finish further south. Like, you started under an overpass or something. I used to train on that road every Sat and Sun. It's fast but full of knobheads so the single lane bits were always joyful, given British driver's love of cyclists.
I've seen a few car crashes on the Wendover and some proper dickhead moves so yeah, it does seem to be a bit of a local race track or something. Also has some shit head throw something at me from the train station. I rode up and around to see if I could hurt someone but they'd fucked off. It might've won me some events but I don't miss doing those long miles around all the A roads out there. -
• #19348
These look interesting: http://www.ramusseat.com/showroom/
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• #19349
PN 30.0C
Length: 255mm
Width: 120mm
Rails: 7×9 oval carbon rails requiring carbon compatible seat clamp
£400PL1.0 (Breakaway)
Length: 275mm
Width: 135mm
Padding: 30-Series Foam and Gel
£I own a green well-used Breakaway and a white one on Mason
Regarding new molding style: ISM has "no plans to change the PL1.0"PN3.0 (new)
Length: 255mm
Width: 120mm
Padding: 30-Series Foam
£128, used for Race Around Netherlands. Seemed to prefer PL1.0/Breakaway so went back to themPN1.0 (Attack)
Length: 275mm
Width: 110mm
Padding: 25-Series Foam and Gel
£135 - I own a white BNIB Attack
£131, ebay ~ £55 whitePN1.1 - 40 series padding (most), my most hated saddle, sold one, still have one in Oz on road bike maybe?
Adamo Road - 30 series padding, upward slope rear, my preferred TT saddle
PS1.0 (replaces Adamo Time Trial) - 15 series padding (firmest), upward slope rear, £150
Adamo Podium has least (15-Series) padding, on Tarmac for now.
They don't make this saddle any more.Others:
Specialized Sitero - hard, maybe not so good for upright riding. Feels ok on commutes
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• #19350
Sorry I should have been clear and said that are not ism.
That sitero looks more like the dash strike, which isn't so comfy on road bike.
I thought somebody would do that, since you didn't have to return your number