Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

DIY was open, I think you’re right about food though - takeaway only.

In putney, the coffee shops that have takeaway have huge numbers of people milling about outside. Most seem to know each other so they stand around, quite closely to each other, chatting.

Coffee is essential apparently.

Maybe supermarkets are busier because of the kids staying at home and having to be fed lunch?

And I'm frickin skint so instead of doing two big shops for the month which I have been dokng, Jan is going to be microshops as and when cash is available.

I can confirm this. Also, are you now based in this lockdown denying bastion of SW London?

On delayed decisions.
MIL works behind the scenes at the HoP- it sounds a cluster fuck getting anything done.
There is likely an element of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue
The government and its scientific advisors have cemented the failure of response to the pandemic a long time ago.
Whatever restrictions are brought in, from how it feels at work, they will be too late now.

Just out of interest- where are people mostly getting their information from?

Are you saying that coffee isn't essential?
Thats inhuman.

It's essential, you can just have some at home rather than taking the range rover to Putney to pick one up

Cost and terrible shelf life. You always get picked the stuff going off first.

Surely there needs to be way more enforcement of people going to work who just sit at a desk all day.

A friend of mine who is a DevOps person for a financial services IT company has been told to go back to the office in the City this week! His whole team!

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At my place quite a few go in because they don't like working from home. Mainly people who live by themselves in a one bedroom flat.

My mum, a head dinner lady in a primary school, has been developing a cough since Christmas day and she delayed and dithered before requesting a home testing kit a couple of days ago which is still to arrive. She emailed the school to let them know, their reply :

I have checked with XXX and 10 days self isolating from Dec 25th allows you to return to work in person from Tues 5th.
Kind Regards

So, two days after saying how safe it is for kids to go back to school, johnson is going to close all the schools because they are so unsafe. How can anyone still think he is fit to run the country.

How can anyone still think he is fit to run the country.

It's not Boris' fault, it's all the idiot people in this country
He's doing the best he can given the circumstances
He's making the best of a bad situation
He's only as good as the advice he's given from experts

etc

As long as she's just got a cough that seems to be the NHS guidance?

You can stop self-isolating after 10 days if [...] you just have a cough or changes to your sense of smell or taste – these can last for weeks after the infection has gone.

( https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/how-long-to-self-isolate/ )

two days after saying how safe it is for kids to go back to school

But that was about two days after saying that it wasn't safe at all for all the schools in London to go back, remember.

Wonder if nurseries will close

For my mental health that is nearing rock bottom I wish I could go to my office to sit at my desk. I commute via bike take my own food and don't go out at lunch. So have extremely limited interaction with people.

I hope so

Why are you not allowed to go in? For reasons of mental health and well-being you are allowed by law to go to the office. There was a question on PMQ’s about this back in November.

They closed the office in October when the last lockdown was on and the building owners decided to redo the air con in the building. That then dragged out till December. I was hoping the office would reopen now but am going to do a phased return due to being off and not being in a good place mentally. I have a meeting with work tomorrow regarding everything . My work have been really good they have covered me monetary the whole time. I even said just give me the keys to the building and I can lock myself in so no one needs to open it for me. Guess we need to see what happens in the announcement.

I hope not.

There was a question on PMQ’s about this back in November.

I think any November advice may no longer be relevant. We had people in our office in November but with Tier 4 it was banned for non-essential staff.

As long as she's just got a cough that seems to be the NHS guidance?

Yeah, I said to her unfortunately the school isn't doing anything against the guidance, as irresponsible as it may be to call her in.

I just took the kid out after finding out a couple of parents getting it from their kids (same age; toddlers) !

That’s worrying!
It’s difficult to pinpoint from anecdotes that it’s definitely from the kids though, not parents mingling, and from all sorts of other places?

Could have been the postman, or on the costa cup takeaway.

not parents mingling, and from all sorts of other places?

yeah could be, one of them was; another kid tested positive in nursery, nursery closed, everyone asked to test, they tested, kid tested positive (15 month old), parents negative but they are ill with all covid symptoms since 19th.