PC Tech Thread

I think the major difference between the different brands putting out the same card is the cooling performance. Also they offer different types of warranty.

I just built a new pc and it runs very cool (altho ambient room temp has been fairly cold recently) and fairly quiet. The only thing making noise is one of the case fans (I just reused my old knackered case). I also did as someone said above - bought a pretty high end processor, haven't overclocked it, and went for a slightly overkill heatsink on it (not sure if this cooler would fit in mini itx tho). Doesn't make any noise at all and stays very cool.

Aorus pro WiFi board (onboard WiFi adapter seems extremely good, ethernet havent tested much)
i9 9900k
Dark rock pro 4 cooler
Gigabyte 3070 "gaming oc"
2x8gb of ram running at 3200 (can be clocked faster on this mobo)
An EVGA 750w PSU which is quiet enough for me altho I have got a better PSU lying around which I might put in for even less noise.
1tb Samsung SSD is all the storage for now.

Whole thing cost around £1300 altho I got extremely lucky finding a GPU. If you can fit this into a smaller case I'd highly recommend

Indeed, and whatever you do it's still system involving conduction, radiation and air convection.

This is just poor thermal design. You'd actually be using the radiator to warm the air as it comes in.

Errr...yeah? As opposed to blowing already warm air through the rad? Blowing some warm air through the case wouldn't be a enough to raise the temperature of the components.

I guess the difference is I don't see the warm air from the rads as being much of an issue because its really not that hot.

I don't know about the financial agreement but the companies like MSI take the OEM card and overclock it, add fans or whatever and resell it. They're mostly not that different so pick the one that seems best price/performance.

I don't really understand these water cooling setups.

Clearly :)

The point is, if you're going to move your radiator away from your CPU, which is what water-cooling hoses allow you to do (as @useless says above, a conventional CPU cooler still has heatpipes and a radiator, they are just close to the CPU), it does not make sense to position it or its fans so that its heat is dumped into the case rather than out.

I suspect I have a greater understanding of basic thermodynamics than some here :-)

My Pubg machine is taking ages to post, tried switching ssd boot order and it made no difference.
Anyone any ideas what could be causing it?

Solved this yet ? If not, any more info on specs etc? Are all parts brand new? Everything seated correctly?

I'm in no hurry - The 5600x cpu is on wait list too. Becaue the spreadsheets are really big.

Within the constraints of having everything in one case, though, a watercooled system means you can have more / bigger fans cooling more / bigger radiators, by dint of not being restricted to being stuck to the cpu / gpu.

But yes - having the rads somewhere different entirely would be better. As would cooling with freon.

Have you tried booting with no RAM, all peripherals unplugged etc?

Seems to be some kind of product announcement on the 12th Jan from nVidia. That that's my birthday can't just be coincidence.

3080 Ti in all likelihood. Probably be just as available as the 3080

Wait for 3060ti to be actually affordable

So the 3090 I have in my basket, I shouldn't get that should I? Definitely not?

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-turbo-24gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card-10496-core-1410mhz-gpu

^ fully aware minimal chance of it fitting in anything resembling micro/mini

3090 is a lot of money for a minimal improvement on a 3080

The 3080Ti will be pretty much 3090 performance for a fair bit less

I mean, they’re all a lot of money, but 3060/3070/3080 are closer to the sensible part of the price/performance curve

Only reason to buy that is needing the 24GB vram. Something tells me that's not likely with PUBG.

As for size, it's not a given that it'll even fit in a regular ATX case.

What about this? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/b2nJNP

Concern appears to be case size, based on the notes it offers - not enough info to determine whether the PSU or CPU cooler will fit. Definitely like the case I think. Black or silver.

Will wait until the 12th and see what gets released then but may start picking up some other bits so I can be using it by say the end of Feb, GPU notwithstanding. (One of the reasons I was looking at the 3090 - at least I don't have to wait for one).

Why 64GB RAM? Half that is the max I'd suggest for gaming, and the money would be better invested in speed rather than quantity. Doesn't Ryzen in particular benefit from faster RAM?

Might want to consider a HDD. 1TB doesn't go very far these days.

Can't comment on the physical compatibility but it all looks ok otherwise. 700W PSU seems to be the minimum recommended for the 3080, but I have a power meter and the most it's ever drawn from the wall is 580W and with way more shit that you'd be running.

Edit: Having checked, 32GB of Corsair Vengeance 4000MHz DDR4 is actually slightly more expensive. Still don't think the extra 32GB would be of any benefit whatsoever, unless there's something specific you need it for?

@Brun

64gb because there's a chance I may end up using the machine for work from time to time. I currently have 32GB and it sometimes pushes the limit so just figured 'the future'.

I have no idea about ryzen benefiting from faster RAM. I suppose I could always get a fast 32GB stick now and add another later. EDIT: ok, so appears to be a cap of about 3200 for speed at 32GB sticks.

Re. extra space - wasn't sure how many slots there were for storage with that mobo - especially with the 3080 in there - how much space it takes up / blocks slots etc. I'd consider an extra M.2 but again was thinking this was something I could add later. It would only be for OS and games and I don't really have lots of games installed at once. I make do at the moment with 350GB in bootcamp. I have a TB2 48TB RAID for other bits.

Any PSU brands to look out for? I generally filter by price and go for the most I'd realistically want to spend.

My last two have been Corsair and neither died or caught fire, so they get my recommendation. Current one (HX850) is passively cooled most of the time, fan only starts when gaming or rendering.

Seasonic are highly rated, but Silverstone seem to be as well. Fully modular is definitely worth it for the convenience, so you're covered there.

^^
Just typing the above has made me question whether that mobo will be compatible with tb2 which would be a ball ache but not the end of the world. An excuse to upgrade storage I guess but 48TB, ugh, had hoped not to be doing that in a while.

EDIT: OK, so assuming I wanted thunderbolt 3 native support from the mobo, that's going to limit me to intel only cpus, right? I think I've seen one out there that can run a ryzen 9 but it has terrible reviews. In a worst case scenario until I replace RAID with something with a different IO I could hang onto imac/mbp and just use them as file transfer machines to pull stuff off the TB2 RAID, but.. but.. etc

Think it's gonna be a 3090... Toying with a hackintosh. Oh god.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-Studio---NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3080-3090-Performance-1903/

Anyone selling or managed to repair a surface book charger? It's the same as the surface pro 2 etc I think - 100w. Mine's snapped where the cable enters the charger head, in the middle of the image below:

Either that or recommendations for a 3rd party charger - the official ones are £90+