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  • I see your shit drawing and I raise you...

    You could go quartered with a horizontally hinged opener at the top and a vertically hinged opener diagonally opposite.


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  • That'd look nice but I don't think any of them would end up big enough to crawl out of in the event of a fire. Having actually done a Google I think I'll probably go for a big side guided with a fixed or top hinged top. The side guided (as opposed to hinged) will allow for cleaning. I'm assuming there exists some mechanism to stop a toddler opening up a window wide enough to crawl out of.

    Edit: I know sliding UPVC hinges usually have some degree of restriction on them anyway, but not sure if this could be adjusted down to only open, say, 3" without pressing the release catch.

  • Edit: I know sliding UPVC hinges usually have some degree of restriction on them anyway, but not sure if this could be adjusted down to only open, say, 3" without pressing the release catch.

    https://www.homesecureshop.co.uk/products/upvc-window-restrictor-child-lock-restrictor-hook-safety-catch for a random aftermarket example. You should be able to have something factory fitted too.

  • I've heard tilt and turn are liable to fuck up due to forces on the hinges. It's 1000 x 1600 roughly so too big for one standard sealed unit I think

    That size should be OK as T+T.
    They tend to fuck up due to a lack of maintenance or poor build/instalation. For the face fixed hinges, at least the hinges have a decent amount of bearing surface of the hinge pins. Consealed hinges look better, but aren't common, probably because they are more expensive, complex and all round shit.
    Many handles can be locked to alow tilt only, so good for preventing falls.
    In the past 3 years, I 've replaced 4 bottom hinges and less than a dozen top stay arms/hinges.

    600 wide is the usual maximum width for a side hung casement window.
    It could be done as top hung, but I wouldn't.
    Friction hinges rely on a plastic slider and a load of rivets acting as bearings. A little bit of wear or stiffness in each rivet means the hinge doesn't close properly and the plastic slider often snaps in two.
    Egress /easy clean hinges are the absolute worst of a bad idea. I replaced 15 pairs of friction hinges in December alone... They are shit

  • hinges usually have some degree of restriction on them anyway, but not sure if this could be adjusted down to only open, say, 3" without pressing the release catch.

    "normal" friction stays open between 70ish degrees for 8 inch sizes down to 45ish degrees for 24" size. The sash travels towards the middle of the opening, so not great for climbing out of.
    Egress hinges are side hung and allow 90deg opening across to one side.
    Easy clean is a button to unlock the egress hinge so it can be slid across for cleaning.
    Restricted is a button to unlock the slider beyond the initial opening

    I don't think there's restricted easy clean.

    https://store.northwesthardware.co.uk/windows/friction-stays/restrictor-egress-stay.html

    Why have two hinge pins when you can have 16 rivets two sliders and a sprung catch!

  • Moving-in 30th January.
    Lots needs to happen before then though. 🤞🏻

  • That’ll come around super quick. Exciting though!

  • Well that's a bummer to hear, as 'egress/easy clean' seemed to solve a few issues, but cleaning could probably be done from the ground I suppose.

    The cill is very low 400mm-ish and tilt & turn always opens inwards doesn't it? I feel it's going to impinge on the room and possible furniture layout if so. The current window is top hung which doesn't really seem to make the most of the window either, being that there's a roof directly below, the window doesn't really feel open even when it is.

  • Also, sounds like you're qualified to answer, is it possible to do 1m x 1.6 in one pane? One company I spoke to said no, but that might just be them being a bit shit.

  • Oh wow! As much as I've loved seeing your updates I'm sure it'll feel so good to be living the place though.

  • Have you seen the Fully reversible type?
    Opening outwards
    Has restrictors built in
    Flips over for cleaning
    Generally robust

  • I'd not, that could work well though, thanks.

  • is it possible to do 1m x 1.6 in one pane?

    The size of glass wouldn't be a problem, unless you want over 2.4m

    The limits for an opening sash are weight which makes sense as the hinges will be supporting it and also the width of the sash.

    Side hung friction stays are generally limited to a sash 600mm wide due to the leverage of the weight and wind .
    Egress hinges are more prone to get bent by a gust of wind.

    Wide top hung opening casements, the bottom of the frame will droop under the weight of (itself and) the glass. You can support the top edge by packing it against the glass, but you can't pull the bottom edge upwards.
    1m wide is OK but if 1.6 is your width, some places may do it but it's probably not a good idea.

    Tilt and turn and reversible frame profiles are normally a bit deeper than casement, and can work with larger openings.

    At 400mn cill height, you will have to use safety glass, as below 800mm is classed as low level.

  • Nice stairs - any tips on where you got supplies from?

  • Mostly from Pear Stairs but the newel posts were from Jackson Woodturners.

    There’s tons of work in refurbishing stairs, and depending on your level of carpentry skill just it’s either a tricky job or a flippin’ nightmare. And you need access to the back of the stairs if you have a closed string so that means taking down ceilings etc.

  • Had a third roofer round today who was much more thorough and had me up 4 storeys on a ladder to show me what was fucked. More expensive than the others but I got a better feeling with him and there are no reviews on checkatrade below 10/10. £10k for full re batten and membrane, new tiles, repointing and recapping two chimney stacks, replacing the flat dormer roof and fascia and gutters (and some other bits). £10k

    Going with uPVC sliding sash windows from Everest instead of timber for upfront cost reasons plus reduced maintenance and better security and heat efficiency. 11 windows (most are 1.8m tall and on the 1st floor). £14k

    I've opened a beer and ordered pizza.

  • Had a third roofer round today who was much more thorough and had me up 4 storeys on a ladder to show me what was fucked. More expensive than the others but I got a better feeling with him and there are no reviews on checkatrade below 10/10. £10k for full re batten and membrane, new tiles, repointing and recapping two chimney stacks, replacing the flat dormer roof and fascia and gutters (and some other bits). £10k

    Who is this guy send him to me

  • He's also (apparently) going to start 2nd Jan and be done in a week.

    https://www.profixroofingandbuildingltd.co.uk/

    This is all having yet to work with him properly, so buyer beware.

    Still have slightly wobbly legs after being up the ladder while he merrily skipped across my velux.

    Cue him being the biggest cowboy in the history of builders.

    I've also got him earmarked for more general building work in future, which may have made me a more attractive customer.

  • How would people lay out this lounge - given that putting the modest TV anywhere else other than free standing will be a bit of bitch due to cabling issues.

    We do watch quite a bit of TV and play video games here..but I'm wondering if that's the room affecting our behaviour rather than us laying out the room in the way we want / need.

    We could have another room as a TV / Cinema / Games thing - I'd rather the fireplace was the centre of this room (sorry Amey)


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  • Knock out the fireplace, and have an 80inch screen attached to the wall.

  • Then line the whole room with black leather lounger sofas from DFS?

    PERFECT

  • mount above fireplace, and to avoid /r/tvtoohigh mount the sofa on stilts

  • Well let me know how it goes as our roof is due for total replenishment and those guys are reasonably local to us.

  • At least robo hoover wont get snagged underneath stilt sofas...

    We currently have it with a rug that's probably bit too small and a sofa that's a bit too deep; another sofa - that I think we need - in the bay window will be partially cut across.


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