• Really? I've got 785s on two bikes and 8070s on two bikes, and while the 785s are a bit large and chonkeh, I've never had any issues with them functionally. And they were cheeeeeep.

  • first pair i got (brand new) had a leak (common on the first few models apparently; same experience for a guy in my cycling club). they are also really chunky compared to newer iterations

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