Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Nearly 29,000 IDs that have had a positive test in the app tonight compared with 2-3000 10 days ago!

Yeah.
That's a hot House

Fingers and toes crossed for your partner's dad. Me and siblings have already discussed plan of action if dad gets it (east asian, 80s, lives alone, health issues). We're trying to persuade him to stop doing his own shopping for a while. Only thing I'd add is to open all the windows while you're there if you're just dropping in. Do you know any medics you can call for advice?

Thanks. She could form a support bubble with him, but she and I are already one. I guess this is a situation that trumps the rules?

Good point about opening windows, which he’d hate because his flat is like a sauna all year round. My niece and her partner are both doctors, but working flat out for obvious reasons, so difficult to ask. Would be good to get him into hospital, but it would be a fight.

It can be reassuring to get advice from a pro - about when to really take on the fight of hospital etc. There's an exemption for caring for a vulnerable person in general. I think if you have it and especially if you're symptomatic, you're supposed to keep away from everyone, but it's just not really feasible if you can't look after yourself properly.

I think the point about schools is that the alternative (children not going to school) is generally worse for spread given the problems it generates for childcare (and knock on effects for parents, grandparents, etc).

(Only primary school experience for us though, I can see it being quite different at secondary and far different again for Y12/13.)

If schools were the primary transmission vector then I would have expected to see that represented in the spikes much more clearly. (That doesn't mean they aren't a lesser source of transmission, just not the primary site.)

I guess this is a situation that trumps the rules?

I don't think anyone would give your partner grief about rules in this situation. If they did, they'd need to have serious words with themselves.

Your partner is awesome, I couldn't imagine being so level headed, practical and caring in the same boat (as much as I'd hope I would be). Probably not worth much, but if there is anything I can do (menial tasks, ferrying supplies), please shout. Will likely be doorstep visiting mrs_com's mother tomorrow in Brixton so will be passing through.

Thanks for that. I hope we’ll be ok tomorrow, but will shout if we need anything

Or any other time, really. Not like we've got many plans and I'm off work until 4th Jan.

Hi Mark

Could she use this tool to work out which room in the house is least risky to meet him in?
https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2020-11/coronavirus-aerosols-infection-risk-hotspot-interiors

Thanks. I finish work tomorrow so will be free from then, but I do appreciate it. Anyway, you have a little one to focus on!

Cheers, will take a look

That short lapse of concentration is when the zombies get you.

Following recent comments, does it also coincide with students coming back from uni?

3rd-9th was student migration back home in the UK.

Ok, they keep moving this around, but you have definitely broken no rules. It was somewhere else yesterday, but is now in the tier 4 rules:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-4-stay-at-home#stay-at-home

Scroll down to:

Meeting others and care

You can leave home to visit people in your support bubble, or to provide informal childcare for children aged 13 and under as part of a childcare bubble, to provide care for vulnerable people, to provide emergency assistance, attend a support group (of up to 15 people), or for respite care where that care is being provided to a vulnerable person or a person with a disability, or is a short break in respect of a looked after child.

Your partner took a compassionate risk that very few of us would have walked away from in the same situation. She also broke no rules. Weighing up the risk to her and you, assuming neither of you are clinically vulnerable, you might get Covid, but also assuming you’re 30s/40s like a lot of people are on the forum, you’ve got a pretty good chance of it not turning into much worse than a mild virus as you’ve got age on your side.

The semester only ended the 18th, but with it being a tiny country most students will have gone home for that day. For most it would have been a 90 minute trip at best and public transport is free for them.

I didn’t mean the issue of the travel in itself, it’s the transmission of the virus from various hotspots back to family homes.

What I meant to say is that the threshold for going home isn't as high as I think it is in the UK, going home every weekend or at least every other weekend is very common.

There maybe a drop in center nearby for the do it yourself test.

You are doing the best you can, understand your OH dad fear, it is common. But think your partner needs to make a plan, if haven't already, that he is high risk. To go against his wishes and get him help breathing.

Yeah, 2 million + UK students travelling and moving back home in the space of a week can’t have helped.

Merci beaucoup Joyeux Noël
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/24/french-firefighters-arrive-in-dover-with-10000-covid-tests-for-lorry-drivers

“neighbours, partners, allies and (yes) friends”

edit, wrong thread

Can we be friends with people that use a decimal point between thousands? The differences are too great.

cant even right proper

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The French have the right idea on that one. Hopefully there's no tariffs on imported European 7s