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So grim, I bought every German beer from Kris Wines for an oktoberfest party I had about 6 or 7 years ago (yes I drink non münchen beer at my Oktoberfest parties before the German beer police come after me 😂) and the smoked stuff was definitely educational. Camden brewery had one on tap à couple of years ago and they successfully managed to make it just as rank as the Germans.
Hahaha! And the 8% oak-smoked is even more special.