In The Beginning: Genesis Owners

Love that you’re getting genuine 1-bike-for-everything use out of it.

If you’re upgrading you probably won’t want lower than 105 level so that gives you the cables hidden under the bar tape for a more modern look. IME 10 and 11 speed 105 shifts perfectly, it’s remarkable how good it is. It all depends on good maintenance of course. I think 34x32 is probably low enough even for touring in mountains given that you’re a regular rider but if not then you might need to use a mtb cassette and mech which will be fine compatability-wise as long as you stick with the same number of speeds from the same manufacturer.

Brake compatibility shouldn’t be an issue either.

Hey Bobble, nice bike! I’ve just looked into the same thing, so:

if you’re happy to stay with 10 speed then I’d consider going smaller at the chainring end. FSA make a subcompact 10 speed crankset (Omega I think) that gives a 30 tooth at the front. Possible new BB needed though.

Otherwise, a Tiagra 4700 GS derailleur allows for a 34 tooth cassette (possibly even a 36 tooth MTB cassette) without any modification. I’ve just bought a 36 tooth cassette, if you’re interested I’ll let you know how it works!
If you go Tiagra at the back you’ll need Tiagra 4700 shifters though, as I understand the pull ratio is different to other 10 speed shifters. Shop on gumtree/eBay/Facebook marketplace for bargain Tiagra 4700 parts, people often pull them off to upgrade to 11 speed.

Accurate, 11-36t works friend has been using it for about a year.

GRX 10 speed chainset would work well, GRX10 should work with 4700 too.

Sticking with 105 10-speed will give you more choice over your rear mech. You could grab some 5700 shifters (10spd, cables under the tape) which will play nicely with either a 10speed GS mech (but not Tiagra) or you could use a 9spd mtb mech. I had this set up on my CDF, with an XT mech and it worked well with a 11-36t cassette.

Cheers for the suggestions all :) Tempted to start a CP for my bikes and riding.

Front mech doesn't shift well but think it is going from a 34-50 if that has anything to do with it? Don't know if it is 105 or tiagra. Also think my mech is a 105 RD5701, short/medium cage so don't confidently know how big I could go.

Where can I find out what shifters will work with what mech? Think these suggestions cover me though. The chainset is an eyesore so may upgrade that, possibly something sugino and maybe a new front mech.

@StevePeel cheers :) If I get space for a road bike may do that, do for some relaxed gearing here and front rack/basket. My rear mech shifts amazingly so shame to ditch it but hills loaded.

@AlexD just enjoyed your thread! I moved to Bristol start of September, let me know if you want to do any riding!

@cnnchi Tiagra 4700 (done some googling now) seems to be a solid/economical option

5701 rear mech (not sure which version) and then dunno about the front

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Hey, welcome to Brizzle! I ride with a local gravel group - I’ll pm you with details of that sounds appealing.

There’s info regarding mech/shifter compatibility out there across many squillions of articles and forum posts.

If you’re sticking to shimano, basically 9 speed road/mtb and also 10spd road is all the same cable pull ratio, (apart from 4700 which is different!) so is compatible (so, you can use a 9speed mtb mech with 10 speed road shifters).

Then after that it all goes nuts and everything is speed and discipline specific.

I know zilch about front mechs and only have one across 5 bikes so can’t help you with that :-)

Edit: that looks like a GS (medium cage) mech to me - you can use that with a 32t cassette, possibly a 36t.

Just buy a full GRX groupset

I have 10 speed tiagra 4700 on my Equilibrium and it’s been faultless for three years or so. Great value and looks decent with the hidden cabling.

@TM would love to but £££

@AlexD cheers! yes please do that would be ace. Could it do 34 or are mtb and road cassettes different? Just started a CP thread as to not ruin the genesis thread!

Here's my cdf a while back about to head out for dome camping.

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do you want me to teach you how to focus?

They're low res scans, I promise

I sold my CdF a while back but built something similar, photos to follow! ;)

Just spotted the 2021 Flyer...

Disks. Knobbly tyres. Is nothing sacred, does everything have to be a gravel bike to sell these days?

https://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/genesis-flyer-vargn21250

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Short answer, yes.

My Fugio :

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fuego

And you have to be blind to overlook those dropouts

This is very strange considering the Day One is still in the range

I thought that too - the old one with the steel frame / carbon fork is a great bike, pretty versatile too - I can't decide if I want to try and make mine a kilo lighter for longer road rides or stick a rack & 32c hipstergrav tyres on it...

That's lovely - I really like the paint on this year's models

I’ve not been able to get out to some nice woods like @acinq, but fitted some Terravail Sparwood. Need to set up for tubeless and sort out reach and cockpit which is a bit funky atm.

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Nice one too! Love the color scheme!