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• #35427
Yes. Should read "Since we became aware that people remembered the issue..."...
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• #35428
My winter cap seemed to have nudged itself out of my gilet pocket yesterday. Or probably escaped while taking out the banana.
Looks like the winter cap is not in the current collection anymore, what alternatives do I need to look at?
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• #35429
Are Rapha anything to do with the team other than a heavily involved sponsor? Eg, it’s canyon/sram, no? Genuine question. It’s not canyon/sram/rapha. So ultimately Rapha have no say in who is part of the team? Therefore they do need to publicly distance themselves from comments that they don’t agree with?
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• #35430
https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/winter-hat/product/WHT02XXGYL
Is this not what you're after?
Edit: I can't seem to add it my basket, I can't tell if that means it's out of stock or the website isn't working properly on my phone.
If it's the former, I had a Gore winter cap that was excellent for when it's really cold. I went for the style without the cover for your ears because I prefer to wear a buff over my ears/face that I can remove if I get too warm but they do an ear flap version as well I think. -
• #35431
This is what I was thinking, WMN Cycling have a long list of additional sponsors such as Oakley, ZWIFT and SIS who are not going to the effort of making statements.
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• #35432
Look Mum No Hands! do an excellent winter hat.
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• #35433
Rapha earlier this year went all in on inclusivity and equality in cycling - no doubt a shrewd business move - turns out fast girl association is a better business move.
In the interest of depriving of Rapha from a sale and supporting an independent retailer I was gifted a winter cap made from the RSF archive on insta. It's lovely and lined with tartan - check out there insta stories as they often have them advertised on there.
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• #35434
I’m pretty sure Rapha have Zero input on who WMN; Canyon/ Sram hire.
I’ve not seen a statement from Canyon or Sram. Although not really sure what my desired outcome would be in this whole debacle.
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• #35435
Dygert clearly has some screwed-up ideas. Not uncommon and she’s broken no laws, but messed up. If the team is serious about inclusion, and principled, that should be enough to not renew her contract.
I do find the idea that each sponsor feels the duty to try and mould her thinking a bit sad.
Whether or not the interference is done with good intentions (as education) or cynically (as PR training) it’s highly unlikely to change her beliefs. The dynamics are all wrong: the sponsor being in control of her immediate livelihood. She will have given them whatever platitudes are necessary and (rightly?) resent them for making her do it. I don’t think that’s how you go about opening someone up to better thinking.
[ There is a lot of conjecture ^ here - we can’t really know what was said, we just see careful public statements. ]
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• #35436
She has moved team.
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• #35437
I thought she just signed for 4 years with canyon-sram?
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• #35438
Yes she was at Trek at the time I thought.
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• #35439
Fair point. Canyon Sram must have known/not-cared about the Twitter-storm when they signed her then.
That’s shitty.
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• #35440
There seems to be some online speculation that Canyon/SRAM/WMN actually signed her pre-debacle, but it wasn't announced until afterwards.
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• #35441
Some brands don’t engage in politics or social issues. Red Bull recently fired marketing execs pushing for BLM statements to be issued. Time will tell what that decision does to its bottom line.
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• #35442
Do you think people can't change their minds/beliefs or shouldn't be given the opportunity to? It does come across a bit creepy in the PR statement but I do believe people have the capacity to change for the good.
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• #35443
There's a weird kicker in that article that the execs appear to have been fired for the racist meme map.
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• #35444
Do you think people can't change their minds/beliefs
Of course not. Her circumstances and the conditions are not at all conducive.
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• #35445
But probably more conducive than without a contract.
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• #35446
My winter cap seemed to have nudged itself out of my gilet pocket yesterday. Or probably escaped while taking out the banana.
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• #35447
Isn't the guy behind RedBull a Breitbart fan? IIRC so probably not a fan of diversity or BLM
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• #35448
It’s time for brands to fucking speak out...
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• #35449
He's basically a fascist, yes. Big concerns about 'mass migration' and 'political correctness' and fears that Europe will 'lose its identity' - he doesn't like brown people and doesn't like being told not be be a racist.
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• #35450
I’m after some new winter tights without a pad, but can’t seem to find any on the Rapha website. Am I missing something?
If you were to sell let me know how many $ you would like.