Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Which is a pain in the bum because one person's idea of where Hackney is is different to another's. If the borough was called something different it would remove a lot of confusion.

I and a couple of campaigning friends have long had a lot of fun with insisting on hyper-localism instead--my breakaway borough of Clapton actually has a larger area than the part of the former parish of St John-at-Hackney that was known as Hackney.

Although given you get people that can't tell the difference between Finchley Road and Finchley there is probably no hope.

Good grief, really? The human race is doomed. Finchley Road is NW3/6, Finchley is NW11.

Actually producing and putting up sector signs (grammar quibbles aside) displays a greater level of surreal wit than I'd normally credit LTN opponents with, though I suppose they do like leaden allusions to totalitarian regimes...

I suppose they do like leaden allusions to totalitarian regimes...

... which those signs, arguably, are not? They're an allusion to the post-war occupation of Berlin, and only one of the four powers involved was totalitarian. Or would you call the occupation totalitarian in itself? The stunt seems to me to be about the restriction on freedom of movement that some people think modal filtering represents.

The MHRA had options not limited to 'Emergency use' approval (EUA).

There are upsides to it, mostly speed. As well as downsides, mostly haste. Is limited to batches not long term production, and simply isn't subject to the same rigour as non-Emergency approval.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/02/uk-put-speed-before-public-confidence-in-vaccine-says-eu-agency

Shrug emoji.

All up north though, so...?

I suppose the direct comparison between checkpoints and modal filtering hadn't occurred to me. Given that Checkpoint Charlie was probably the most famous border crossing into and out of East Germany of the cold war, I think the link with totalitarianism is arguable at least; IME anti-LTN types like to conceive of cyclists and 'the cycling lobby' as a malign totalitarian force, out to crush their freedoms.

Well then, which one is the totalitarian bit, Ealing or Hounslow? :)

The famous design is the American one, but variants of those signs were all over Berlin, at every sector boundary. I obviously have no idea what the originators were really thinking, but I find it most obvious that they're criticising the restriction of movement. It's entirely possible that they were thinking of Checkpoint Charlie specifically or the sector boundaries in general, I don't know.

'Ealingian'

'Gillingans'.

Totalitarianism ain’t all that bad, we’ve had a bit of a propaganda campaign lately to promote it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hongkongfp.com/2020/11/30/hongkongers-look-on-the-bright-side-of-totalitarian-rule/

Very moving indeed. Hard to imagine going through that mostly alone, was relieved to read that he had family company at the very end.

They missed out "getting paid in cash cos you can't use bank accounts anymore"

Thats only for the leader of the government and a few cronies though, those beneath the boot are still fine.

I've just watched the News Night segment on the pfizer biontech vaccine. I'm sure it was supposed to be a reassuring segment, but It did nothing but put me off and generally scare the shit out of me. I'm really glad that I'm not likely to be in the democratic that its going to be offered it any time soon.

Its not helped that a number of government ministers tried to claim that the super fast approval is because we're no longer part of the EU, it isn't, but hardly a ringing endorsement if it was the case. Perhaps that would be a selling point to the gammons who are likely to be offered it first.

They had a representative from Biontech on who gave it a ringing endorsement of there work and also the in depth questions asked by the government, but it really wasn't very convincing.

Do I need to sign up to facebook again join an anti vax group.

Just go outside and stare at the horizon until you can see the edge of the world disc.

Fark, colleague has tested positive, I've been back in the office a week and a half. Now shitting it about being asymptomatic as my other half is pregnant. Hopefully T&T get in touch soon and I can get a test. If not is there any other way of getting a test? I'm not in a mass testing area and gov.wales site seems to say you are only eligible if symptomatic.

Says you have a cough and get tested.

The thought did cross my mind

But if you admit to having a symptom (to get a test) you may end up being checked upon that you are self isolating.

Private tests are available for £££.

@christianSpaceman yes that does make sense, my immediate thought was it was some sort of covid commentary. I've taken to walking in the road when passing under the bridge these days.

If it comes back negative you don't need to isolate if your 'cough' has 'stopped', so should only isolate from test till result. Should be less than 48hrs.

Have "symptoms", get test, act as if you have it until you get the test results.

Dickhead two doors down seems to be having some gathering of about 30 people with his kids friends and their parents outside his house in the street. I know he’s a dickhead because he display a collection of fedoras on a shelf in his front room.

https://twitter.com/grantshapps/status/1334543848333332482?s=19

Natural Covid immunity if you're rich.

But if you admit to having a symptom (to get a test) you may end up being checked upon that you are self isolating.

Not so if turn out to be negative.

I got tested when I’m fine (due to girlfriend staying with an infected person

Also got tested when I was coming down with a cold and have to leave work (again negative and got back a week later)