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Imagine getting punched with a broken orbital. Fuck that to infinity. Seen a few people throw in the towel with the same injury. Absolutely no shame in that. But there's always going to be the "Just bleed" types that want to see someone die in the ring before quitting based on some absurd notion of toughness or whatever.
Not really
I think Dubois did the smart thing in taking a knee, I know it’s seen as quitting but he’s a young guy and that eye looked fucked. Joyce looked effective and think fighting Usyk would be a good matchup given his size and reach