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I recall a discussion earlier in this thread earlier, where Tester and others showed how crossing the Atlantic with a cruise ship isn't greener than flying as you need to factor in the fuel used to transport all the fixtures needed on a longer journey. I.e. cabins, restaurants etc.
The main reason for preferring slow travel to fast is that the volume goes right down. It's the constant, everyday grind of planes blasting off, because everybody thinks they ought to be able to go to the other side of the world at the drop of a hat, that's the main problem. In themselves, as tester says, operating large ships is very environmentally damaging, e.g. in the (pre-COVID, although I expect it'll go back to how it was before pretty quickly once we feel we can live with the virus) burgeoning cruise ship industry, but if you keep their number down and intercontinental travel by boat is small in volume, it's better. Too many ifs, and equally obviously, people will resent any such curtailing of their modern 'freedom'.
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but if you keep their number down and intercontinental travel by boat is small in volume, it's better.
Whatever number of people you need to move, air liners are still at least a whole order of magnitude less poluting than ocean liners.
Cutting travel volume by banning the most efficient method is ridiculous.
gbj_tester
In my leftie/liberal bubble I am increasingly often crossing paths with small house enthusiasts and those hipsters who refurbish old vans and school busses into mobile homes.
Their aspirations to some kind of virtue annoys me anyhow, but the more particular question I am putting to you guys in this thread is to what extent they can claim to live "sustainably".
I recall a discussion earlier in this thread earlier, where Tester and others showed how crossing the Atlantic with a cruise ship isn't greener than flying as you need to factor in the fuel used to transport all the fixtures needed on a longer journey. I.e. cabins, restaurants etc.
Surely, driving around willy nilly in an old diesel powered vehicle transporting your bed, kitchen and livingroom furniture everywhere you go surely is a similar fuck you to the environment?
As for small houses, I guess I can’t criticise them to the same extent, but it’s not as if they will be using public transport much. My main worry is that they will spearhead a greater suburban sprawl out into hitherto sparsely populated areas. While the initial flag bearers of small housing may be spotless in their environmental conscience, I would assume that if this catches on the standards will slip and the result will be a chaos of small house dwellers all over the place without sensible arrangements in place for rubbish disposal, sewage, water etc.