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  • I don't even know where to begin!
    Is 500 way off the mark?

    That’ll get you a more than adequate setup, in my opinion. Milk drinks can tolerate a less than perfect espresso and still turn out a very good cappuccino or flat white. You’ll be impressed with just a Gaggia Classic and coffee ground by the roaster. If you choose a Classic, you’ll need to change the steam wand on it from the panarello type to a plain steam wand from a Rancilio Silvia (about £15) to do good milk.

  • Thanks for this. And @disq too. I read about the gaggia classic and thought the new ones after Philips/saeco reversed the abomination it had become didn't need the wand upgrade anymore? Watching the vid on sub £500 machines now.
    Any opinion on the sage barista express other than get out you heathen?

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