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Thanks. Yeah, the price of the expensive ones are hard to swallow. But the ones i get now will be used for a 2000k race and I would like a pad that can handle a couple of days of intensive riding. But yeah so expensive...
I guess if the core ones with out pockets are better than the ones with I should go for those even though i find any pair pants without pockets provocative...
As the general conversation revolves around sandwiches at the moment. I guess mentioning other brands that might offer the product I’m looking for would be considered at least as on topic.
I have the core cargos and am happy with them. I couldn't really justify the extra cost to get the 'proper' ones. Have had them for a while and they haven't gone see-through like others report. I guess YMMV...