Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Also on the subject of pointless kit list
3/4 length tights/ bibs can go on there too!

3/4 bibs are great...

Love a breakfast muffin, that's a sandwich right?

The shame when we went to McDonald’s when I was a child and my father asked for a knife and fork.

mods pls change the title to 'sandwiches thread'

NO WAY

Almost exclusively in 3/4s these days, and once again annoyed at Rapha, cos their womens ones aren't bibs.

Another vote in favour of 3/4 bibs from me.

Knee warmers surely can negate 3/4 bibs. I consider knee warmers essential between October–November and February–March. Tights December–January, unless below 3C.

In favour of closed sandwiches.

Is the right place to discuss gear ratios?

3/4s till winter then longs

Shorts until it's too cold, at which point it's shorts and merino leg warmers. Below 0 you can wear tights. No 3/4s or knee warmers

Knee warmers surely can negate 3/4 bibs.

And 3/4 bibs can negate knee warmers.

If conditions are changeable and you might want to remove them then knee warmers make sense. If you're going to be keeping them on for the whole ride, knee warmers and bib shorts offer no advantages over 3/4s and some downsides.

I assume all 3/4 length bib advocates also have 3/4 jerseys then..?

Less kit is the main one, but I confess more kit is the itch.

Muffin is a cake theory.

I assume all 3/4 length bib advocates also have 3/4 jerseys then..?

Legs ≠ arms. In particular, elbows ≠ knees.

can't believe there are so many pro-3/4 bibs perverts on this website

The lower 3 and 1/2 inches of the shin are well known to expel the largest amount of stored heat in the body.

Especially if you have really really droopy balls.

Link to a peer reviewed study or gtfo.

I’ll read it with my open sandwich.

I can’t believe we’ve got this far with no mention of the Croque monsieur...

Arguably the 3/4 length sandwich

Hey they tend to be heavier material than bib shorts. So pretty good ~ 10° imho.

If you’re getting a cold arse when cycling then you need to up the tempo.

Arguably the 3/4 length sandwich

show us your working

I do get a cold arse. Zone 2 does that.

Perhaps inactive glutes too #broscience