• OT, but thought this would be a good place to source opinions.

    What are peoples views on fish tanks? Are they cruel?

    Follow up question is whether anyone knows what the Internet calls fish-free fish tanks, all my search combinations bring up some kind of maintenance cycling.

  • Depends on the size of the dog and tank, I’d say.

  • thought this would be a good place to source opinions

    The very definition of optimism

  • What are peoples views on fish tanks? Are they cruel?

    I don't think tanks are cruel in their own right. It's more the whole fish breeding industry that's a problem.

    • breeding for looks rather 5han health leads to widespread health problems.

    • undesirable looking fish are culled

    • lots of tropical fish are wild caught and shipped in polystyrene boxes...many dont survive.

    • fish "painting". The act of injecting a dull looking fish with dyes to make them look more interesting. Fish often die from stress or dye toxicity.

    I used to be a very keen fish botherer. Even got into breeding for a while. It's a very rewarding hobby but the collateral damage to the environment and direct damage to the fish that are bought and sold is problematic.

    On the other hand, not too dissimilar to how shitty the dog breeding industry is . I'd like to own fish again one day but my choice of breed would be different now days.

  • check out Foo the Flowerhorn on youtube, this might be the fishless fish tank you are hoping for?

    It's not without marine life, but less fish and more diversity.

    (edit: not so much the Flowerhorn vids, they are clearly a fish, but lots of plantlife tanks vids)

  • I feel a bit bad about the size of most of them, goldfish in the wild grow 12 - 14 inches in length, in tanks they grow 1 - 2 inches. I'd love a nice fish tank to look at but I wouldn't feel right having one under at least 5 foot long and nearly as deep and there's no way that's fitting in my flat. Plus all the cleaning they need.

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