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  • it could have been a lot worse.

    Which is a slippery slope rhetorically. Many of the objections to the BLM protests were pearl clutching speculations as to what disasters this could have led to.

  • Armed people chasing political opponents is not exactly the same as demonstrations.

    The moment people think it's ok to intimidate political opponents with threats of violence, be it directly or indirectly, something is very wrong.
    You read the text on that trumper hearse?

  • The moment people think it's ok to intimidate political opponents with threats of violence

    I dread to think what some polling stations will be like. Surely there'll be widespread targeting now, almost without penalty, as it's effectively been sanctioned.

  • The moment people think it's ok to intimidate political opponents with threats of violence

    Being lucky enough to view this from a distance, it's a fascinating insight into how this stuff unfolds and norms shift.

    I'm sure if you spoke to some of these individuals one by one, gave them an eg of a hypothetical country and asked them if they thought that intimidating opposition was conducive to a democracy they'd say no and recognise it as wrong.

    But once people get gassed up there's no telling where it ends.

    When you're there, a lot of the US seems more of a developing world country in terms of infrastructure and condition of cars. Sadly it looks like it's heading that way in political terms too.

  • Armed people chasing

    I guess this is the bit that's not exactly black and white, the video doesn't seem to show any guns/weapons, certainly not being waived around - and the chasing seems more like a kind of childish 'in-your-face ner-ner' type action (even the white car that got hit by one of the pickups looks to have been trying to squeeze between the pickup and the bus without enough room).

    I hate feeling like I'm defending Trumpists, but also don't like this kind of hyperbole in already uncertain times - feel like it can prompt unnecessary escalation (if they're bringing guns they we'll bring guns too etc. etc.)

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/armed-trump-fans-biden-bus/

    hope that doesn't sound too both-sides'y..!

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