• Can anyone comment on the pro team cargo shorts as winter bibs? I sent my pro team thermals back after the chamois got shredded through in 3 weeks. Super warm, just didn't seem like they were going to last.
    After a new pair of thermal bib shorts now, thought maybe the pro team cargo shorts can double up as an effective winter short, given the material seems to be a bit thicker?

  • They are thicker and slightly water resistant but not lined. They aren’t pro team, more like Brevet. I like them put a lot of miles in with them.
    Were you thermal shorts the new ones? I was considering getting some.

  • Okay got it, thanks for clarifying. I might go for some le col thermal Bib shorts in that case.

    Yeh the Rapha bib shorts I bought were the new ones, the chamois pad started to bobble/rub away after about 3 weeks, of not especially strenuous use. Sent them back for a full refund.

    Someone tempted to buy a second pair, hoping that maybe they'll bobble up to a certain point, then stop?

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