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Isn't that the same fash fuck that wants poor people sterilised?

The fact that he says these things is not nearly as terrifying as the fact that enough people thought he was who they wanted to represent them.

I read this as a hopeful story that we won't follow the US route of ever increasingly polarised politics, hopefully it will be shortlived

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/oct/24/culture-wars-are-fought-by-tiny-minority-uk-study

He was on newsnight being very unconvincing

sadness in his eyes...

He didn't know until someone spelt it out on his door

They missed an "N" out.

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Is this new or was it around the time of the last general election?

Edit: The latter.

https://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/18059121.iain-duncan-smiths-office-vandalised-anti-tory-graffiti/

it's as relevant now as ever

Sure, but if something's in the 'news' thread without comment, I do want to know if it's news.

good point well made.

still...

Gah, I saw it on twitter and thought it was a recent attack on Dunkin Donuts.

This has started happening though:

Southend Tory HQ

Very good idea for a visual protest.

Oh dear poor IDS. On a positive note, at least somebody didn’t turn up with a knife threatening to kill people and wanting to hang up a bunch of swastiks like priti mob.

Some slim hope that this will have the effect described:

The US has written to treaty signatories saying the Trump administration believes they made “a strategic error” and urging them to rescind their ratification.

The letter, obtained by the Associated Press, said the five original nuclear powers – the US, Russia, China, Britain and France – and America’s NATO allies “stand unified in our opposition to the potential repercussions” of the treaty.

However campaigners hope the treaty will have the same impact as previous international treaties on landmines and cluster munitions, bringing a stigma to their stockpiling and use, and thereby a change in behaviour even in countries that did not sign up.

Ican said in a statement that it expects “companies to stop producing nuclear weapons and financial institutions to stop investing in nuclear weapon-producing companies”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/25/treaty-banning-nuclear-weapons-made-official-with-50th-un-signatory

Reckon starmer might pick up some London cabbie votes now?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/27/keir-starmer-contacted-by-police-after-collision-with-cyclist-in-london?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Crazy stuff going on in France, so sad

It takes such a tiny amount of mentally unwell, vulnerable, angry, frightened people to polarise a planet.

What I wonder - not being a religious person myself - is to what extent even the most conservative believers look at stuff like the Hebdo fallout and say "wow! this shit is way out of proportion!" or is that type of logic anathema to faith?

I don't think you can relate the two.

Protesting people insulting (and possibly attacking) your religion and cultural identity ≠ supporting murder.

You can't look at these things in a vacuum where persecution of Muslims doesn't exist.

You certainly can't. I'm not beginning to play surprised that oppression and terror leads to terror... I'm just wondering what the general conversation in conservative religious households is at times like this (Muslim or otherwise).

The french state has generally played chicken with their Muslim community for years now both culturally and politically. It's very sad indeed, but why constantly poke?

Charlie Hebdo has a go at everyone.

Some actors encourage people to attack people because "that country is anti Islam", same groups that have no time to tackle discrimination within Islam / countries over religious differences.

Same with the USA Christian right, happy to attack liberal Christianity as well. They stop at encouraging violence obv. Welcome to human tribalism (it's not unique to religion)

Now: If Macron wants to be consistent he has to condemn both murder based on feeling offended AND tit for tat and structural racism.

If everyone is part of a secular French state that's blind to religion you can't ignore that either. Cos otherwise it is special negative treatment.