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  • For anyone stuck on the layering thing, hopefully this will put everyones mind at rest;

    The PT Jacket (now Training Jacket) actually started out as ...The Pro Team Winter Jersey. It was meant to be the PT version of the thick fleece-back Sportwool Winter Jersey, and using the 3-layer Polartec face, meant a highly protective/versatile jersey could be developed. It was in the vein of the Gabba, but trying to address the lower breathability of the high-stretch PU membrane.

    The Polartec was extremely light for the time, and utilised an electrospun membrane (name escapes me). This was fantastic, apart from the end product didn’t really make sense - a £220+ long sleeve jersey, that was extremely light, such that it didn’t feel protective or good value (despite it being both)

    So .....all the features were bumped up, No 5 zip, bigger zip guard, heavier construction on collar, more visual cues added ...and the Pro Team Jacket emerged (along with Charteuse colour, and a Eurobike award)

    You can all ride easy, knowing it’s whatever you want it to be!

  • It's going to be like the great Jaffa Cakes debate all over again. Jersey or jacket? Cake or biscuit?

  • Just beat me to it G.
    There were many discussions over having a hybrid jacket/Jersey category for the PTJ and various other products that most people wear as a Jersey (base layer only under) but function closer to a jacket.
    As fabric technology has developed there are more and more in the market allowing huge flexibility of use depending on personal preference.

  • Interesting point about price-point and marketing. I suspected it was designed primarily to be a jersey - this explains why I needed to size up (for my use with a jersey underneath).

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