Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

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miro_o in reply to @_Zed_

Ah different panels make sense too.

I agree. The PTTJ was great. Only not-amazing thing about it was the ability to dissipate heat and slightly too-close fit (for those using as an actual jacket - rather than just over a baselayer).

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Lolo in reply to @miro_o

for those using as an actual jacket - rather than just over a baselayer.

An actual jacket does not require anything else than a base layer? Any extra layer hinders breathability.

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