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  • Ah different panels make sense too.

    I agree. The PTTJ was great. Only not-amazing thing about it was the ability to dissipate heat and slightly too-close fit (for those using as an actual jacket - rather than just over a baselayer).

  • Only not-amazing thing about it was the ability to dissipate heat.

    I think that's one of it's strong points. It keeps you warm if you're riding, but doesn't cook you. Not that great if you're just standing around waiting, but Pro Team baby.

    ... slightly too-close fit (for those using as an actual jacket - rather than just over a baselayer).

    Never found the need to wear anything other than a winter baselayer under it myself. PTJ + winter baselayer is good for down to below freezing IME.

  • for those using as an actual jacket - rather than just over a baselayer.

    An actual jacket does not require anything else than a base layer? Any extra layer hinders breathability.

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