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  • to help catching up, someone more able than me (anyone) want to hazard at a super abridged 5-10 point version of events thus far to bring everyone up to speed?

  • @de5iRe sold the frame to @kobe (aka Pista Mercato).

    Kobe says frame didn’t show up and despite tracking info that said it was delivered being supplied by de5iRe, he got a refund.

    De51Re eventually got his money back after a fight with dhl/PayPal.

    Frame shows up on eBay.

    Seller (Estuardo Lafuente) claims it was bought from Kobe.

    The idea that the seller Estuardo bought it from was not actually Kobe is put out there by I can’t remember who.

    Kobe supposedly buys frame from Estuardo in order to return it to de5iRe.

    De5iRe and others ask Estuardo to explain where he bought it from (ie eBay, forum etc) but Estuardo refuses to share this info.

    Kobe and Estuardo start getting aggro with people.

  • The idea that the seller Estuardo bought it from was not actually Kobe is put out there by I can’t remember who.

    Kobe. he maintains that a malicious third (or fourth) party obtained the missing frame, which had been shipped from germany to the nertherlands, and sold it to estuardo lafuente, who runs a cafe in vienna. this sale was done, apparently, with no trace on the open internet and the seller claimed to sr. lafuente that he was kobe at pista mercato.

  • excellent and @fizzy.bleach
    just what was needed

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