• Yeah, it's frustrating. We have a two week half term for some reason. We've taken the kids off school today, and the plan is currently to isolate till next Tuesday, which is about 13 days, then head up to the grandparents in the Midlands for the rest of that week.

    They are basically voluntary shielding due to heart conditions / general old age, so isolation before we see them has been standard through this whole period. We're the only people that have been in their house since March. Everyone else has stayed in the garden on the other side of a hose laid on the lawn...

    Now it looks like our plans may be scuppered, but I'm trying to find out if the tier system is actually a legal thing - will it be illegal for us to visit them, or just against the guidance.

    I know we're doing that thing we've agreed is wrong - if you're trying to see if you're allowed to do something, you probably shouldn't, but its frustrating because we know we will be taking all possible steps to make it safe - steps we were going to/and have taken even when it wasn't required.

    They are lonely and desperate for some company / to have the grandkids around and my partner will be absolutely gutted if we can't go. With Christmas also massively up in the air, this could be a real blow for everyone's mental health right now.

    Perhaps we can claim we are bubbling with them...a short term bubble, with our own two week circuit break policy....it's hardly a drive to Barnard Castle to check your eyes.

  • If you can justify that they are part of your support bubble then it is OK

    A support bubble is supposed to involve two households, one of which has a single adult member so I think what @Scrabble describes isn't one. It's also supposed to be local.

    Informal childcare is allowed so if @Scrabble and partner dump the kids with the grandparents while they go do something else for a few hours I think they are okay but the grandparents should keep their distance.

    IANAL

  • Just had a look, technically don't think we can. The only legally permitted support bubbles are for single adult households.

    Edit ^ Yep...

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