• After being a massive sceptic converted to tubeless on a couple of bikes about a year ago.

    4 massive tubeless disasters in 4 months earlier in the year. All around 50-60psi (I fat). 1st on a road (rarely used road, just after coming off a canal path, massive gusher that wouldn’t seal, plugged it and fired plug out, darted it left for 2 days then it fired the dart out cornering at 30mph) 2nd was on road maybe but of glass, massive cut that wouldn’t seal, 3rd was a pinch puncture off road where sealant was pissing out both sides of the tyre, 4th was back roads caused by a little sharp stone (the type found in bridle ways in Lincolnshire). 2 different well regarded tyres,( 4 different tyres altogether)2 different well regarded sealants, 2 different repair methods.

    I realised it’s not just the inconvenience of putting a tube in and getting covered in goo, it’s the disappointment that after all that extra expense and fucking around it still doesn’t work.

    Have left MTB and 650x47 gravel bike tubeless for now but everything 40c and below back on tubes.

    Back on voyager hypers with tubes done about 5-600 miles issue free.

  • Have left MTB and 650x47 gravel bike tubeless for now but everything 40c and below back on tubes.

    I've always said road tubeless is dumb. This is what I'm talking about. This is the gravel thread. Low pressure, big tyres, rocks and shit. I'm looking to replace the 650Bx47 spare tube with a smaller one, that's all. If I wanted to ditch TL already I'd have fucking done it after the 700x50 debacle or the the WTB swap install or you get the idea.

  • "Low pressure, big tyres, rocks and shit"

    Get a mountain bike?

  • To be fair 2 of these failures were on 42c “gravel” tyres, other 2 on 38c “gravel” tyres, just happened to be in between “gravel” when they happened - 2 I think were bits of gravel that got pushed through by the tarmac. Ultimately they didn’t seal, although muc off did a much better job of trying than orange endurance.

    What I found annoying was that even after a few days the sealant wasn’t set, was expecting a rubberised glue type result.

    how low pressure you running?

    Maxxis super lite tube an option?

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