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TM in reply to @doug1e

If anything the current range of shimano hydro levers are the most streamlined there have been - not much different to the cable levers. Have you actually seen a pair IRL?

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doug1e in reply to @TM

A few friends have di2 which are a nice size but I want to stick with mechanical which don’t seem to have come that far from the original ultegra rs685. I haven’t fondled any of the newest range per se but I’d be intrigued to see a size comparison .

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TM in reply to @doug1e

They’re completely different, I’d suggest you get out for a socially distanced fondle down the LBS.
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edscoble in reply to @doug1e

They don’t look it, but the latest R7000/8000 is very different to the first generation, and feel smaller than the original 105 5700 (finally).

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