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  • fuck that. a VAT receipt or you're not setting foot in my house. Encouraging tax avoidance is never a strong look.

  • Isn't the VAT threshold something like £85k a year turnover? I'd have thought that a large proportion of self-employed / small business traders don't need to charge VAT.

    The most scam is those that charge it, but don't pay it.

  • If they are working on their own, sure.

    If they hire a couple of labourers for most jobs and supply materials I'd have thought not.

  • we've had floorers and landscapers in who were more than happy to provide receipts etc. and were upfront about their tax affairs when asked. but yer right - they could be bullshitting for all i know. still - better than trying to get work done on the cheap by colluding with obvious tax dodgers. a red flag if ever there was one.

  • They love fucking the ones that do that, we aren't VAT registered but dont turn over that much now, years ago my dad was but it was a proper nightmare for him being a one man band.

  • I'm not a builder but I'm a sole trader and work mainly with businesses. The threshold that you HAVE to register is £85K but you can do it before. I registered when my turnover was way lower as I could charge the same to companies, but claim back loads more of my expenses. It's really simple now with online accounting software etc, albeit with a basic understanding of the tax system and IT.

    Problem comes when you work for consumers who can't claim back the VAT and assume it's all Vat inclusive, I'm always very clear but often people quote ex vat and the client doesn't realise and is hit with a bill that is 20% more.

    It has already been mentioned, but the only way that I'm aware of that you can 'make' money is to be VAT registered, claim all the expenses back, but do cash in hand jobs that you neither declare income tax or VAT. It doesn't help that people don't realise the difference between the two, especially as basic rate tax and VAT are both '20%' - I have tried to explain the difference to many intelligent friends, but I'm not sure it's fully got through.

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