Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

I hear you, I think my 'un-scientific' comment was more aimed at the fact that there's no explanation of how / why this is 'safe', and as you say, will surely lead people to question why it's one rule for them and another for some.

There are loads of shit-hot directors, actors and DOPs in the UK, it hardly seems business critical to fly someone in from the US to direct an ad campaign.

Lol 😂

There are a few other exemptions eg Pro Sportspeople.

We have a potential shoot coming to ours and they outlined the covid prep the crew goes through including all being privately tested weekly and temperature checked onto the site everyday. So even though no quarantine they will be being more heavily screened than Joe Bloggs on the way to work.

Where we would be going in Normandy is pretty low risk, though I imagine ferry ports and airports are hotspots where people from all areas may meet and spread...

I think your dilemma could be solved by looking at this global pandemic from a perspective other than your own.

I'm allowed to break quarantine as well. But only if I have to appear in court to represent someone. In that case I can trot along and infect everyone in the court and everyone I meet along the way. Yay! Rules!

If there's going to be a full lockdown/'circuit break' it'll be around 1/2 term to avoid messing with schools and parents too much

I think I get to dodge the quarantine, as a sports professional, when I travel to Jersey in November for a tournament I am refereeing.

I haven't double checked, mind.

Alright mate...

Would you suggest I look at it from the perspective of Dominic Cummings?

I am very much following general guidance and also common sense: observed 14 days quarantine on return from France; self isolated during the time I picked up a common cold/cough from my toddler pending results of a covid test; have and use the track and trace app; follow government/university/governing body guidance re: covid for teaching a sports class at university; wear a mask when required; and wash my hands/gel hands religiously; have significantly limited any physical social activity; have not been to a restaurant since Feb; have barely visited the shops.
Last time we went to France, we self isolated for a week out of choice to minimise contact prior to travel.

Probably the same as everyone else, so I'm not saying I'm special in any way, and I'm doing all the above to 'help the cause'. But I do have 2 young kids, and it would be nice for them to see their grandparents if able, especially as it is unlikely that we will be seeing them at Christmas, and who knows until when.

So my selfish question is, will schools let us go, knowing that we'll have to have our little one out of school for 2 weeks, is there any talk of a quarantine reduction scheme on travel? Of course if we test positive, we will self isolate.

To say it’s a fucking shambles is an understatement. An old family friend is involved in organising the COBR meetings and is incredulous at how long a gap there had been between their meetings, it’s not like the virus had fucked off. This is coupled with a cabinet who don’t meet, and thus aren’t briefed so just turn up and wing it when talking to the media, the icing on the cake is Boris Trump just spouting whatever he feels his base or the media want to hear even if it contradicts the government line.

When life long Tory voters like my dad are saying they’d vote for Starmer (this is not a vote for labour but a vote for someone with the intellect and leadership) it’s clear that things are fucked up. As someone who is outside of my media bubble it’s interesting to hear my dad talking about how he alternates between Times and Telegraph as his paper of choice and how both of them are slating Boris and the Tories for their handling of the current situation.

will schools let us go, knowing that we'll have to have our little one out of school for 2 weeks

I think it is unlikely the head would say yes if you asked. Kids out of school is disruptive and they want to minimise it. It's less disruptive in lower years but easier to have a blanket policy.

is there any talk of a quarantine reduction scheme on travel?

Not that I've heard and I think it is unlikely this side of Christmas.

Makes Cameron and that austerity guy look terrifyingly competent

"Get Brexit done"

you get what you fucking pay for.

So my selfish question is, will schools let us go, knowing that we'll have to have our little one out of school for 2 weeks

no and expect to be fined as well as being known from this point on as those parents who put jollys over school

is there any talk of a quarantine reduction scheme on travel?

no

Can't help but wonder what chaos with Ed would be like...

"Oven ready".

Like that fucker knows how to use an oven anyway.

“Get Brexit done"

you get what you fucking pay for.

To be fair, because it was so vague, techinically anything that happened, be it’s a complete crash, no ideas to a deal is “getting Brexit done”.

Clever choice of sentence that appeal to both remainer and leaver.

Oven ready".

Like that fucker knows how to use an oven anyway.

“Oven ready”

*walked into a fridge instead

Desperately looking around him to find someone to tell him the answer.

You nailed this - he really does do that doesn't he? Like if he looks around hard enough someone might turn up and rescue him from the self-inflicted hell he's living in.

Word from friends in Westminster - some of whom work with people who brief him - is he still has to nap in the afternoon post-Covid, is absolutely hating the job because he thought it would involve nice photo ops and it actually involves a pandemic that's killed a million people and is flat broke due to all his children and messy divorce(s).

Scousers stopped from lording it up in gay abandon again.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-local-lockdowns-announced-north-19019959

When life long Tory voters like my dad are saying they’d vote for Starmer (this is not a vote for labour but a vote for someone with the intellect and leadership) it’s clear that things are fucked up. As someone who is outside of my media bubble it’s interesting to hear my dad talking about how he alternates between Times and Telegraph as his paper of choice and how both of them are slating Boris and the Tories for their handling of the current situation.

This tallies with a poll I saw on Twitter at work today. Don't ask me to find it now but basically Starmer's approval ratings are doing well in Middle England.

You nailed this - he really does do that doesn't he? Like if he looks around hard enough someone might turn up and rescue him from the self-inflicted hell he's living in.

That is very obvious in PMQ too without his usual cronies.

It’s not a dilemma really. You just shouldn’t even be thinking about going. It’s that simple. Also, you already know this.

I do know this already, just disappointing, also means my wife will have seen her family once this year ...