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But all vans are awful. Apart from old Commer PBs with powerful engine swaps.
@Dammit have you considered an old Commer PB with an unlikely engine swap?
Look. Y'all need to try and stop poking holes in Dammit's logic around the bike transport thing. It ain't happening.
Less whataboutery, howaboutery, haveyouthoughtaboutery, and whynotery and more sick van youtube links.