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also, surly's are looooooooong ... but saw this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Surly-Pacer-Steel-Road-Bike-2017-Petite-Women-42cm-Disco-Tomato/293726385811?hash=item446374f693:g:9T0AAOSw0GlfV7lRmy frame is a lot less aggro tho
Aha agreed. I'll pass that on.
She's on an old Nigel Dean mixte touring bike with a laughably tall stem and flat/swept bars at the moment, so trying not to scare her too much with an aggressive front end