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thanks - somehow missed this.
reach is only 2mm shorter but stack is significantly lower (36.5mm), given the nature of the bikes. I'm 5'11/181cm tall and just don't know if my frame size (M/54) is one too small or if I'm just used to the super relaxed geometry of the arkose at this point. been having shoulder issues this season, due to straining it last august and had a professional bike fit on the arkose with the only change being to put a longer stem on - this got me a less compressed position and made me long/low and has been working out. think I just need to work on strengthening the shoulder muscles and refining the position on both bikes......
cozzzzzzzz
Check stack and reach etc. Plus the stem angle website is very useful.
You are taking a position from a relaxed endurance bike to an aggressive race bike though...