• taiwanese copies

    Would like a source for those.

    There's a real lack of choice for the hobbyist bike maker in terms of machined parts this side of the pond.
    Not that you'd need anything other than PMW because they make everything you need and make it well but at £200, those are expensive when you're not getting paid £1,800 for the frame they're going on.

  • It'd be interesting (and unethical and probably illegal) to send a step from PMW's website to a couple of the Taiwanese prototyping workshops for some quotes.

  • Interesting but a bit disappointing if you were to order some from Taiwan - sure the originals are expensive but when you factor in R&D time it's the only way they can make money, and ergo continue to come up with innovative products. I'm sure PMW were once hobbyists that decided to try and make it a viable occupation, instantly getting cheap knockoffs of whatever they develop is a great way to kill an independent company.

    Not trying to have a personal dig at you (and you did acknowledge the ethical/ maybe illegal part), just feel like this year of all years, independent companies are going to need all the help they can get.

  • If you wanted 1,000 I'm sure you could get them cheaper elsewhere, although I suspect PMW would be happy to do a deal with that sort of volume. If you just wanted one, I doubt you'd get it cheaper. One offs are invariably expensive, even when done by dedicated prototyping workshops.

    And as t.b. says, it would be deeply unethical.

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