• 32mm gravel king on archetypes was the best I could do on mine, very minor scuffing on the underside of the front calliper (campag skeleton) when climbing out of the saddle...

  • Thanks. That's pretty generous.

    Can anyone tell me the difference between a Champion Mondial (AB?) and a Tour de l'Avenir?

    Eyeing the latter now. Both have 531 tubing, but they must be different in some regards. Champion Mondial doesn't have mudguard eyelets I guess, but surely that can't be all.

  • To be honest I’d not bother with the tour l’avenir - it’s 531 main triangle and gas pipe everything else, mid range pint about town bikes, the CM is a classy road racer and readily available for cheap!

    Photos of roomy clearances with 25mm tyres...

  • There are CM's with eyelets, I own 2 ;-)

    Tdl'A frames are made up of 3 531 tubes, the main triangle only. CM is full 531

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