• Are safety recalls not directly related to build quality?

    What about @Dammit super spendy Mercedes which appears to be disintegrating?

    Personally I'm not bothered by panel gap differences enough to ever report them. If something falls off the car then I'm sure I'll get it fixed just like any other manufacturer, but I'll do it with a car with significantly cheaper running, service and environmental costs than equivalent ICE cars.

    Also, I don't think the watch argument holds water. Grand Seiko are high quality and low cost, IWC are low quality in comparison and often more expensive. I've had RR, BMW etc in the past and their interior quality isn't in a different class to that of the Model 3, yet they often cost a lot more and claim superior quality. General cabin materials are on par and technology is obviously way ahead in the Tesla. Not sure if you've sat in an Aston Martin from the mid 2010s but their indicator stalks are from the Ford Focus...

  • Are safety recalls not directly related to build quality?

    What about @Dammit super spendy Mercedes which appears to be disintegrating?

    Well yes, but on that front Tesla don't exatly cover themselves in glory. Didn't Tesla have to recall 50% of all cars they ever made at one point? Not sure how Tesla compare to Toyota though. One company makes 300k cars per year and the other 10m. I can't find any figures to calculate a recall rate to compare like for like.

    My point about watches was that I wouldn't be rushing to buy a new Grand Seiko if the previous model had a reputation for the hands falling off. I understand the appeal of a Tesla..the tecnology, the wow factor...just not people being willing to turn a blind eye to basic defects on an expensive vehicle.

  • Quick google... could only find up to 2016 data but...

    Seems like Tesla are ranked very positively in terms of recalls per 1,000 cars sold, ranking 4th best.

    Having said that, their recalls all involved dangerous things:

    Having said that, all their recalls were unforced and also had the quickest timelines from issue identification to recall:

    Full study: https://www.iseecars.com/vehicle-recalls-study

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