Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

Are you looking to convert the wheel to 12mm or replace the thru axle with one without a lever?

If converting, check your end caps will fit in your fork, I've had a pair machined down for this reason, as they were too big.

Getting rid of the lever - Brand X do them

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I have some Hunt wheels so can have them 12mm or 15mm by changing the end caps.
The forks are 15mm only. The current thru axle has a QR and a whacking great big spacer, it look awful. Brand X don't do the correct size, this is my issue. 15mm Thru axles are all MTB width, not road/gravel. So the best option is to go to 12mm. Which means I need to modify the forks. The JJBP adapter kit looks the best option.

Pfadfinder incoming

Snap. Red or green? Green for me!

10 Pfadfinder CP threads incoming.

Also green. Had the axs full build in the cart for a while but I’ve got some ideas on the wheels & finishing kit and don’t want to risk trying to resell bits

Awesome. Yeah I went frameset too. Already got 2 bikes to part out and make room for this!

don't forget to buy the pas normal studios kit to go with these !

Unfortunately all the matching green jerseys are out of stock...

genuine question, but 1700 euros for a frameset seems a bit high, what's the steel and weight ?

Yeah it's a lot. Steel was Spirit on the last one but now says 'selected Columbus', which is a little mysterious, and they say 1850g. For me it was more that the geometry and clearances were exactly what I was after, and I couldn't really find the same elsewhere.

Also anything in euro seems a lot these days.

definitly, it's a sweetly designed frame, there aren't any other fast winter frames with gravel potebntial. but i can't help but think that they are trying hard to conceal the relative low quality of steel, against price.
A genesis equilibrium takes 35mm tyres and is almost half the price

Also agree that it’s expensive. Price does include a Chris King Inset 8 headset & a bottom bracket but obviously aesthetics have led this decision more than value for money

At least it’s cheaper (& lighter) than that Cinelli Nemo gravel frame someone posted a while back

Standerts aren't cheap. Their aluminium road frames are £1200.

Nice but pricey

Giving all them frames away to "influencers" has to be relegated somewhere.
But people are buying them, so marketing does seem to work. :)

Which is ludicrous.. That buys a complete CAAD with 20 odd years of development and pro racing heritage. A bunch of monocrome insta crap is hardly liquigas winning pro races.
Rant over

Yeah but how many likes is a CaadX going to get? I feel you’re missing the point here

exactly ! a genesis vapour is same rrp, half the weight, but an infinity of likes below since it will get you Zero

Licks or likes? As the target gammon market for notgravel bikes I'm not involved with SM..

Pfadfinders Anonymous

comparing steel to carbon or aluminium frames just pricewise is not fair!?
I ordered a Pfadfinder, i got too many issues

So I went ahead and did the thing, so here's my MTB frame with non-adjusted gravel forks.
predictably, BB drop is going to be my enemy, but I think with big tyres it will be ok?
Currently with these wheels I had with ±25c tyres the drop is 235, which is danger zone
I have calculated it would be 262 with the 2.1" 29er tyres I wanted to put on it, so if I have a 165mm crank that seems pretty safe, but I am wondering for smooth road riding (or where I am not expecting #nogravel), whether I can get away with 35c? And is 165 really necessary, or can I get away with the BB30 cranks I already have that are 172.5? Maybe I can trade down...

Also, is baby-blue gravel the new baby-blue fixie? (I might have to paint the frame to match the forks ;P )

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That looks... long. Is the stem being swapped for something shorter or are you secretly part gibbon?

That was just the first 1 1/8 stem in the parts bin, but I actually think the reach is not too bad - I would have the seat post further extended though, so the proportions would be more square... I'll have to see how it feels when I actually have it built up to ride though!