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new tyres? can be worth installing on a more forgiving wheel and leaving inflated for a couple of days. I have had tyres which I couldnt install on my velocity a23 rims (which also have a reputation) but once on/stretched have been able to reinstall without levers. For your problem perhaps a more flexible tyre might help (though this just a guess regarding bontrager tyre)
sidewinder-
Thanks for the suggestions, tyres are old but wire bead and not supple (hence the name). Theyve been fitted for a while pumped up with a horrible bob in them so dont think theres much chance of stretching. I think next step is flexible tyres, I did try a 4 season with the same problem but not really wide enough for the rim .
doug1e
Can anyone recommend a cheapish 'loose' fitting tyre around 32c if that is a thing? I bought some budget touring wheels that came with Ryde rims, tyre fit is unbelievably tight. Googling Ryde it seems to be a common issue. I can get the tyre on but the bead gets stuck under the hook and wont pop out even with silly PSI and plenty of bead lube, currently got bontranger hardcase. Thanks