EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54013285

Brexit: End tariffs on UK-made ice cream vans - Liz Truss

New record for absurdity! :)

Just when you thought the EU couldn't give a shit ...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/02/sewage-sludge-containing-human-waste-uk

Saw that, lolz. It makes sense, in a way, but it may not be sanitized properly and that's a risk...

The German ZDF Heute show has put the boot in some time ago when it turns out the UK has to import EU sperm for IVF as well... :)

Is this just idiotic posturingor are we as a country fucked already. And have we just given up hope or are we beyond caring

I don't hold out much hope, but the best thing that could possibly happen to this country would be for the Tories to remove Johnson from office. As expected, he has proven to be a ridiculous liability, same as in every job he has ever held.

Given that Johnson is as recklessly irresponsible as he is lazily incompetent, we’re fucked.

Although good to see that fishing rights remain a priority...

Yes.

Has this been resolved yet?

We were fucked when the UK voted the Tories in with a huge majority. Boris is just doing exactly what he said he would.

But he had an oven ready deal to get Brexit done!

I came here to post this, arsehole, "I bet you don't dare out up a border, njeh njeh"

Not sure he understands how untrustworthy this make the UK look.

Yep, and it's always been clear this was his deal!

We've decided to more than hedge our bets and are buying a property in France.

Is there a golf club nearby?

Whereabouts?

They may be in a bind though, as their newly won voters voted "BORIS", rather than "Conservative". Shed Johnson and they'll shed votes.

Probably. Not really my scene (atm) so haven't looked into it.

Dordogne

The property seems almost too good value for money. 4 bed with 700 m² garden in a small village. Brantome area.

Not sure he understands how untrustworthy this make the UK look.

It amazes me how many brexiteers think there won't be any consequences for not meeting our legal or financial obligations.

A nice example of how this view is utterly incorrect is what is happening with Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe in Iran. She probably would have been released by now if the UK hadn't welched on a contract and spent the last 41 years trying to wiggle out of paying Iran the £400m we owe them in the courts. Even after the the last possible court ruled that the UK still owed the money the UK hid behind EU membership and sanctions as a reason why we couldn't pay them. Now we are out of the EU we are hiding behind not angering the Americans when we want a trade deal.

Being an international relations dick comes back to bite you.

Imagine being a country that took a bunch of money to build some tanks, didn't build the tanks and won't return the money.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/sep/04/uk-defence-secretary-acknowledges-debt-owed-to-iran-over-shahs-tank-order

It's just Johnson floundering, as usual. This process of trying to violate the contract has probably been going on for some time, but they're probably just using it to create a distraction from the talk of Johnson's incompetence, which is why it's being reported now. Just speculating, of course. I mean, it's not as if Johnson is terribly obvious.

I mean, it's not as if Johnson is obviously terrible

Altered that for you

Well, it worked for Ivan the Terrible, I suppose.

No deal has been the desired output from the beginning. It's unsurprising that when the point of no return approached that Boris/Tories would act this way.

They may be in a bind though, as their newly won voters voted "BORIS", rather than "Conservative". Shed Johnson and they'll shed votes.

Arguably, they voted primarily to 'GET BREXIT DONE' rather than for Johnson, who was not very visible during the campaign. I don't know what his popularity is with the general public now, but he certainly seems to have lost a lot among Conservative Party members.

The reality is that there is no deal (acceptable by the EU) that will be better than staying in so politically the only option is no deal. This allows you to blame the EU rather than bear it yourself