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Thanks for the reply.
Since posting I ordered a shotgun seat only to find out it isn't compatible with the frame I have. I have built up a Dad bike for a bit of fun with an old Raleigh frame and loads of bits out of the parts bin and didn't really appreciate how much distance there was between the top and down tube untill the seat turned up and will only fit with the nose of the saddle touching the stem.
Looking at the bike now its all in one piece I can't believe I didn't see it earlier. (see pic)
Instead I have gone a similar route and gone for a Nexxt Maxi and some overly heavy and may soon regret dutch pannier. (Both yet to arrive). So will see how they fit and how we get on.